Zero motivation duellers, let's be honest, you do not only want allot of targets, you want to kill people not skilled in duelling. While that is not bad, it is sad in my view for a lvl 35 player to have 2500 wins and almost no loss and still claim that just because he/she likes it it should be so.
Yes, there are some that want to focus on killing the weak... I'm not saying that is not happening. But there are ZMDs that are keeping their duel mot low to keep their duel level low for other reasons. I've already stated the reasons as have others (keeping more targets, dueling enemy fort fighters, squashing duelers that are picking on alliance members/friends, staying out of reach of higher level ZMDs... etc).
I have not been dueling actively... But when I decide to start dueling actively, I don't want to start dueling only to find out that I only have a dozen or so targets available. Rather than bothering others to keep my duel mot low, I used NPCs. Then I could focus on the quests I wanted to finish and go to fort battles. That is what my time allows... If I have to hunt for low level peeps to duel just to keep my duel mot low, that eats into the time that I have available to play the game.
So, I'm forced to make a decision... to Duel... or to let my duel mot skyrocket and take the chance that some noob will come along, duel me and lose... Sending my duel level up. That is what I'm trying to avoid.
He/she plays within the rules of the game, that is not the problem, the problem is that the rules of the game are changing and that particular player needs to adapt like we all need to adapt with any change that comes our way.
So, if I don't like the changes... I'm just supposed to roll over and take it?
I think Inno is going down the wrong route to solving the "issue" (or what they perceive as an issue). This game started as a pure dueling game... Then along came forts... And those who wanted to join battles could do so. Then the High HP Tanks came along... To combat those, many dueling squads were created to try and get rid of some of the High HP Tanks prior to battle. With Inno trying to stop duelers from dueling non-duelers (High HP Tanks), they will soon make it so High HP Tanks can no longer be dueled prior to battles... Of course, that is only if the FFers don't use that Work KO Exploit to keep themselves under KO so they can't be dueled anyways.... Which is something I'm still surprised that Inno allows.
Duelling needs to be fixed, again we all agree here, but since in Inno's point of view 2500 wins and "harrasment" of low lvl players (ending up most definitely in KO) is bad for the health of the game, they've decided to make a change. Nothing is permanent and the game has to evolve.
By trying to stop ZMDs, all they are going to do is make the truly "Evil" ZMDs even worse... and force those not-so-active ZMDs that are going that route for other reasons (like myself) to have to use low levels to keep their duel mot low. I haven't dueled in.... damn... months? Except the odd "Helen could you help with this person?" request, I've only been questing and fort fighting. Now... I have to make a choice because my RL only allows me so much time on a daily basis... I can't just pop on, NPC duel my mot down, queue a few jobs for quests/crafts, craft my dailies, huggle my friends and allies, then head offline again anymore. To keep my duel mot low, I have to hunt low levels... Which is not something that I like to do... And I hate being forced to do so. Not just because it takes time to do so (although time is not always a luxury), but because I do not like dueling low levels that are an easy win. I dueled NPCs to keep my duel mot low so I could any level duel freely. I'd only go after low levels if they were a problem (harassing a friend/ally).
Not only will they not change it, they have no reason to change it. 0 mot duelling is still very much possible. How many of you 0 mots stayed at 0 and not actively duelled? 10%? Less? The point I am trying to make is that if you are duelling actively you will keep your motivation low anyhow. Maybe not at 0, but close to 0 in any case. The amount of experience you get from each daily motivation update will take you a long time to drive your Duel level significantly.
Sure, ZMD is still possible... If you are active. Like I mentioned above, I have to chose between the two... I can't play the game I enjoy anymore. For me (and others like me), yes, it does make a big impact on my game play... No time/energy to do jobs for quests/products for crafting. For the truly "Evil" ZMDs... It won't make any difference to them because all they do is duel.
Lastly, why are you accusing other play-style as bad? Why are fort fighters suddenly the bad guys? Have you run out of arguments to support your fruitless and silly claim that duelling has been ruined? I have friends that used to be 0 mots and after I asked them what they think about the update, in general I got the same response: "meh, so what". Indeed, so what? Stop making a big deal out of nothing, it's bad for your health.
I'm not saying any other play style is bad... To each their own. What I am saying is that they should not have the right to ruin someone else's way of playing just because they do not like it. If they didn't want to be dueled, why join a dueling game? I mean that is a logical question... Why join a PVP game and say, okay I just wanna plant crops and do the odd battle, so you are not allowed to attack me. Just like I wouldn't join a game like SIMS or Farmville... I like the West the way it was when I first joined. And I swear that the people that join now and think they are being "harrassed" by ZMDs have no idea what real camping "harrassment" is. Back when there were town raids and a whole town of duelers would sit on your town and duel everyone in it through the Saloon (without running all over the map).
BTW, you may be surprised to know that I always thought that wasn't right... When they changed it so you had to go to where the person was... It made more sense. I still didn't mind running around looking for targets because there were a LOT available. These days... the world populations pale in comparison to back then.
To the ZMDs that you asked about the update and they said "meh, so what"... Are/were they active duelers? Do they have no life so they can still take in all the aspects of the game? My answer to both of those questions is no...
I have to make a choice... And since people are hell bent on ruining the way I like to play the game, well just call me Karma. I'm going ZMD and I'm gonna go Evil.
It truly is useless to further debate about the update. We can talk about how to improve duelling or other aspects of the game that are so horrendously wrong, but 0 mot duelling is not one of them.
There have already been ideas put forward... Including only allowing people to duel within a range (10-20 levels or whatever) around their regular (non-dueling) level. Which would definitely open up the amount of targets for all duelers. This would also help those XP duelers that are running all over the map looking for the 10 or so peeps they can still duel... They would have a lot of targets available to them... Including the ZMDs that are (according to them) "avoiding them". And the ZMDs will likely be dueling the XP Duelers to prove that they aren't as wussy as the XP Duelers say they are. Maybe they might even leave the poor defenseless FFers alone...
BTW, I'm still wondering why non-duelers are only complaining about ZMDs that duel them and get 0 XP... but they don't seem to be upset by XP duelers that farm them for XP... Why is it such a crime not to get XP from a duel? I still don't get that...
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You had an easy life so far, now you will have to add a bit more effort. It is not ruined, not by a long shot, It is not the same as before and yes, your duel level will raise eventually, but you are more likely to close your account by the time your duel level will reach really high levels. (provided you stay an active 0 mot dueller).
Yes, I am likely to close my account if the Dueling Game I joined changes to the point where I no longer enjoy playing it... And it's getting closer and closer to that point with each "update". Especially the dueling updates... but also some of the other ones. I've already voiced my opinion when those came up, so I won't bother to do that here.
No matter what the community says in regards to most updates... Inno doesn't seem to care. They do what they want to anyways, which is their right since it is their product... But if you do not listen to your customers, you will lose them... That's Business 101.
The only thing I'll really miss about the game are the people I have met through it... Honestly that is the only thing that keeps me here... If it wasn't for them, I would have left a long time ago.
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I hope that will never happen.
Me too...