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You're right. It's Genesis 3:22, sorry about that.
Lol, okay so if I blow someone's head off, they're not dead, they're just "separated from God."
I'd like to know where in the Bible it says that a 'sinner' will be tortured for eternity.
Since this place [hell] is fiery, people believe that the fire is probably going to torture you.
Although there is a lot of debate whether the fire is a literal element or a figurative thing.
If you actually read the Bible you can see that what it really says is that Satan to the shape and form of a snake and lied to Eve by promising her that if she ate of the forbidden fruit that she would be like God.
Perhaps you should reread your Bible; I've read many versions many times over the years. Nowhere does it say that Satan took the form of the serpent.
New American Standard Bible said:Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
Revelation 20:2
And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Read Luke 16. I quoted it in my previous post. That is not figurative. It is a true story that actually happened (notice the fact that the proper names Abraham and Lazarus are used) by Jesus.
Sure it really happened. That is the whole bottomline of this discussion.
You believe everything that is in the bible and i don't. I think it is just another book written by men to control, scare and actually abuse other people.
There is no proof at all that these things happened. Call me an agnost, but until is see proof, i just can't get it in my mind that it is true.
First, the odds of writing a book like this and getting all the pieces to fit. There hasn't been one historical or geographical error in the Bible. As a matter of fact people have been able to match the Bible with history. Archeological finds are coherent with the bible. They match it.You can easily Google some Bible facts and see the accuracy of the Bible. What kind of proof do you need? Ill look it up for you.
- global flood; you'd think you'd find evidence all over the world for a global flood, no?
- Exodus; you'd think the Egyptians would have had at least a small notice when such a large part of their work force (wasn't it even 2/3 of the entire Egyptian population?) just left, no?
- global flood; you'd think you'd find evidence all over the world for a global flood, no?
First, the odds of writing a book like this and getting all the pieces to fit. There hasn't been one historical or geographical error in the Bible. As a matter of fact people have been able to match the Bible with history. Archeological finds are coherent with the bible. They match it.You can easily Google some Bible facts and see the accuracy of the Bible. What kind of proof do you need? Ill look it up for you.
Only a worldwide flood can satisfactorily explain the cause and reason for the millions of fossils that have been discovered.
Hehe, there goes your ignorance again. Read up on cool flame --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_flameAll the fire I've ever touched has been hot and it burned.
Actually, yes they do know. Problem is, "you" don't know, which is a continued demonstration of ignorance, a prevalent characteristic of those who claim the historical validity of the Bible, despite contrary evidence, whilst denying anything else. It gets old, but let's put you on the spot. You claim validity, so it's on your head to provide the evidence in support of your claims, not ours for disputing your general claims.There's been fossils of creatures that live in the sea found on the top of mountains how did they get there no one knows ...
Hehe, you do realize that's just plain silly. There's only one type of death, and it's known as, "dead."There are three types of death, Hellstromm.
Physical Death: Separation of the spirit and soul from body
Spiritual Death: Separation from God because of sin
Eternal Death: Separation from God in the eternal state
Hmm, so was that a Physical, Spiritual, or Eternal death? *smirk*His desire is that we turn to Him for grace and mercy. He desires this so much that His body became a man so that He could die in our place.
Of course they noticed; why would you think they didn't? What is so unbelievable about self-emancipation? Especially if it was such a large majority as you said, the desire of the masses for freedom from their oppressors would naturally be great.
You said it yourself, Jack; the evidence should be all over the world. And so it is. [...]
LOL it shouldn't be so hard to write a book that fits into history and geographicly after things have happened. It is still fiction imho. Show me how a man can turn water into wine or show me how he can walk over water. If you can look that up for me it would be great. Even better, show me how a man can return from the dead.
Provide evidence of this claim, good luck on that.Yeah but the Bible isn't one book. Its many books written over time... It isn't written after the stuff actually happened.
Just one question: Where did all the water come to flood the entire world? And where did it go?
Hehe, there goes your ignorance again. Read up on cool flame --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_flame
Actually, yes they do know.
A book written in 100 A.D. can easily present instances/events that happened 2000 years prior, pose a spin, and claim it's all relevant.
Hehe, you do realize that's just plain silly. There's only one type of death, and it's known as, "dead."
Hmm, so was that a Physical, Spiritual, or Eternal death? *smirk*
It is? If all creatures would have fossilized at the very same time due to a global flood, you'd find the fossils in the very same layer, no?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZiusudraIf it isn't the case, then is there anything at all going for Noahs little boat trip, or what?
Your accounts of fossilisation, flood creation etc. are not even faintly plausible to anyone with a basic knowledge of the physical processes involved.