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Hey Bevoir, thank.
Hey Bevoir, thank.
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Wow, that is nasty and the visual impact is frightening. Thank you...
I thought it might be something like that.
I hope that it is recognized how important that is, like everywhere. Tampering with too much of what is on the planet is not healthy.
I thought it might be something like that.
I hope that it is recognized how important that is, like everywhere. Tampering with too much of what is on the planet is not healthy.
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Well, you can't tell, just from looking at that photo, how much of the silt carried by the river is as a result of deforestation and how much is just a matter of natural erosion, which happens with all rivers.
Deforestation is a contributor but don't assume that it's the only one. Sorry if my previous post was misleading in not mentioning that...
Deforestation is a contributor but don't assume that it's the only one. Sorry if my previous post was misleading in not mentioning that...
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My impression of Brazil: you don't ever want to mess with the BOPE. :bandit:
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Tex lol
Sadly our best movie involve a lot of violence and cops against slums. This is because the population is afraid. I don't have this problem, in Belo Horizonte I is ver calm, and it's a very big city.
You can see that all these movies are in Rio de Janeiro. At some mouths, Rio was with a civil war
Sadly our best movie involve a lot of violence and cops against slums. This is because the population is afraid. I don't have this problem, in Belo Horizonte I is ver calm, and it's a very big city.
You can see that all these movies are in Rio de Janeiro. At some mouths, Rio was with a civil war
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Carnival, beach volleyball, and nice booties, although the fact that breast reduction surgery is the most popular cosmetic surgery procedure in Brazil is alarming.
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It's funny because I often meet people from Europe or Japan who think America is all violent and lawless.
I tell them: "Sure, I get shot at two or three times a day. More if I leave the house." :laugh:
I tell them: "Sure, I get shot at two or three times a day. More if I leave the house." :laugh:
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He have laws, and it's not all dangerous after all. When you learn to keep your eyes open, you stay alright(it's doesn't mean that you need to stay watching your back everytime and walk in the street with fear, just keep your eye open 
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Elmyr. our women are the best, this I can tell you for sure. Beach volley ball is a legend(this does't exist here, not at the point you associate beaches with volley) and carnival happen during 3 days and one to rest. We are not a country with is a party everyday and no one work.
).Elmyr. our women are the best, this I can tell you for sure. Beach volley ball is a legend(this does't exist here, not at the point you associate beaches with volley) and carnival happen during 3 days and one to rest. We are not a country with is a party everyday and no one work.
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Poverty stricken country+hot chicks = brazil.
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brazil
hmm
cool movie(some sci fi)
nice beach
leaders in the swimsuites fashion dept
third place in jeans makin(itally america brazil)
nice rain forrist
but bad slums
bad cops (universal problem)
squat camps (we have em here too..blame goverment)
lepers (there is a camp near you for people with leprosy)
drugs
casinoes
good vs bad.....i like the place,,portuguese speakin people that are warm and friendly.
hmm
cool movie(some sci fi)
nice beach
leaders in the swimsuites fashion dept
third place in jeans makin(itally america brazil)
nice rain forrist
but bad slums
bad cops (universal problem)
squat camps (we have em here too..blame goverment)
lepers (there is a camp near you for people with leprosy)
drugs
casinoes
good vs bad.....i like the place,,portuguese speakin people that are warm and friendly.
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Congrats on getting Olympic pick If nothing else it shows the IOC thinks Brazil is suited to host the World Olympics.
If nothing else it shows the IOC thinks Brazil is suited to host the World Olympics.DeletedUser
I like the girls at the beach :laugh:
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Long post below... :/
I don't really sympathize with this topic and just got here by pure curiosity, but i think i must answer (and enforce?) some things.
And greed was always present in our (brazilian) history. HIGH FIVE EUROPEANS!
And the people are dumb. They don't know how to vote... Seriously... (but that's a common thing in almost every place in the world -_-)
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What Skull said is not exactly correct.
We have here a bunch of -pigs- as senators... but... in my opinion... that's not enough to say the government is unstable.
Not entirely solid? Yes, that's it. Sadly...
(and Sarney being, or not being, where he is, won't change the senate filthy behavior. I think/hope Skull used it as example to show how bad we are, about this.)
Indeed! Alarming! O_O
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and... Betsy... I would say you are more than welcome to visit Brazil. Just search for a lot of places to visit, in advance. Please don't come to just visit the Amazon Forest and Rio de Janeiro lol
I don't really sympathize with this topic and just got here by pure curiosity, but i think i must answer (and enforce?) some things.
True
Wrong
Hell wrong!
Some? There are more places than in any other country i can think about. More places than i can visit if i dedicate my whole life just to do it.
Depends on the place you are. You wouldn't be thinking in who's in a sad life condition while you are in a beautiful place, right? (except if it's there, at your side).
Abrupt population growth was somewhat good, in various points.
And greed was always present in our (brazilian) history. HIGH FIVE EUROPEANS!
The biggest problem here is with corruption. The politics around here use to don't give a -crap- to people under their influence. Since cities government, until the senate... They care more about advantages to themselves than doing their job correctly.
And the people are dumb. They don't know how to vote... Seriously... (but that's a common thing in almost every place in the world -_-)
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Fooled? If they allow themselves to be fooled they were already in a huge problem! You are talking about exceptions you see in the news, not reality.
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Brazil is not different about this subject comparing with other countries
What Skull said is not exactly correct.No. I wouldn't call it unstable.
We have here a bunch of -pigs- as senators... but... in my opinion... that's not enough to say the government is unstable.
Not entirely solid? Yes, that's it. Sadly...
(and Sarney being, or not being, where he is, won't change the senate filthy behavior. I think/hope Skull used it as example to show how bad we are, about this.)
LOL
Indeed! Alarming! O_O
That's prohibited around here. I don't know any cassino
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and... Betsy... I would say you are more than welcome to visit Brazil. Just search for a lot of places to visit, in advance. Please don't come to just visit the Amazon Forest and Rio de Janeiro lol
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Umm, nope, not wrong.
Since the abolition of slavery in 1888, the Brazilian state has for the most part refrained from designing or implementing explicitely "racial" programs and policies comparable to segregation or apartheid, or the more recent (in the United States) programs of affirmative action and equal opportunity. Thus the relationship between government action (or, equally important, inaction) and patterns of racial inequality is not nearly so visible or apparent as in other countries. Perhaps, as a result, notes political scienties Pierre-Michel Fontaine, works proposing to deal with that relationship in Brazil, "have one thing in common; they do not deal with political institutions, behavior, or attitudes, or with elections, electoral behavior, or political parties, or even public policy --- in fact, in some cases, such as that of Freyre, they do not deal with politics at all. Those that do, do so in a broad sense, at an abstract level of conflict and power imprecisely defined." ~ Blacks & whites in São Paulo, Brazil, 1888-1988, by George Reid Andrews
Translated, it indicates the government of Brazil makes no overt actions to address racial or social inequality. I.e., I'm not wrong.Nope, again, not wrong.
The same individuals who affirm knowing racism exists in Brazil, deny being racists themselves. --- Datafolha's research confirmed this hypothesis. According to the results of that research, Brazilians practice what they called "racismo cordial", in other words, the individual always denies being racist himself because he knows it is politically incorrect. Paul Singer, professor of Economy and a CEBRAP researcher, says that "Brazilians know that racism exists but do not approve it. They sincerely think others are racist but not them." --- according to data from Datafolha , even though the majority of blacks are employed, more than half of them receive less than two minimum wages ($200) a month. ~ http://www.brazzil.com/p16oct96.htm
Northeast area of Brazil is alleged to be the least prejudicial area of Brazil, and yet there is ample evidence of racism:
Given the existence of prejudice in the Northeast it is not surprising to find rather vehement expressions of it in the rest of Brazil. Indeed, it is not far wrong to say that Brazilian culture is pervaded with a low conception of blacks. ~ Neither Black nor white: slavery and race relations in Brazil and the United States, by Carl N. Degler
Research Polls as evidence:
The research project, “Prejudice and Discrimination in the School Environment,” was requested by the National Institute of Educational Study and Research (INEP) and carried out by the Institute of Economic Research (FIPE). The research reported high levels of prejudice. Of those interviewed, 96.5% have prejudice against persons with disabilities, 94.2% have ethnic/racial prejudice, 93.5% have gender prejudice, 91% age prejudice, 87.5% socioeconomic prejudice, 87.3% sexual orientation prejudice and 75.95% prejudice based on place of origin. --- The research indicates that virtually everyone interviewed (99.9%) wants to keep a distance from some social group. Persons with intellectual disabilities suffer the most, with 98.9% of respondents wanting to maintain some level of social distance. This is followed by homosexuals (98.9%), gypsies (97.3%), persons with physical disabilities (96.2%), indigenous people (95.5%), poor people (94.9%), persons living in the outskirts or slums (94.6%), persons living in rural areas (91.1%) and black persons (90.9%). ~ http://www.patriciaebauer.com/study-finds-prejudice-in-brazil-translation
Culturally ingrained:
The white drinks champagne
The caboclo [mixture of Indian and white] port wine:
The mulatto drinks cheap rum
The Negro urine of the pig. ~ Terra de Contrastes, by Roger Bastide, Brasil
The caboclo [mixture of Indian and white] port wine:
The mulatto drinks cheap rum
The Negro urine of the pig. ~ Terra de Contrastes, by Roger Bastide, Brasil
You should get out more.
That's the biggest load of crap you could have posted. Typical "blame the victim" mentality.
"Brazil has one of the worst child prostitution problems in the world and a thriving sex tourism industry has developed in more impoverished states like Bahia and Amazonas." ~ http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/brazil.htm
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Do you have a source that's a bit more up to date, Hell? That book was published in 1991 and covered Brazil up to 1988. Twenty years is a long time for a country to change policies.
The age of the paragraph aside, it does state that there are "works proposing to deal with that relationship [between government and racial inequity] in Brazil". So, if there was a criticism of Brazil 20 years ago then it was that it wasn't taking effective steps to deal with those issues - not that it made no effort to address social inequities.
Of course, different people have different opinions on the best ways of dealing with these things.
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Well, when I think of Brazil I think of Ronaldinho and beach football
Oh, and congratz on getting the Olympics in 1216, you'll have to try and match London... though how hard that will be...
Oh, and congratz on getting the Olympics in 1216, you'll have to try and match London... though how hard that will be...
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Hi Bevoir, yes there is more up-to-date information, which states the same thing, and some of those links I already provided above. The extent of government action, over the past 30 years, is to collect data, which is the typical act of inaction. Minimal efforts have been made to address anything, just the political game of, "we're looking into it."
1999 - http://www.minorityrights.org/1040/reports/afrobrazilians-time-for-recognition.html
2000 - http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/42/133.html
2002 - http://www.minorityrights.org/810/i...ing-exclusion-discrimination-and-poverty.html
2008 - http://ldcommunications.blogspot.com/2008/07/negro-brazilian-congress-for.html
The reason for this? Mainly it's because there is a gross denial within Brazil. This is the huge obstacle. Where once they proudly claimed to be the racial peacenik of nations, the truth eventually came out. Where before it was claimed racism does not exist, report after report has shattered that illusion. It was, and still is, a lie. As mentioned in the previous post, the problem is in a social denial of racism. So now, with analysis and research polls clearly indicating widespread racism, almost all do not believe they themselves are racist. The dichotomy of denial in which 90% feel there is racism, yet 90% feel they are not, themselves, racist.
You know who's really doing anything about this crap? Private groups, such as ABC Trust (sponsored by Jimmy & Jimena Page), CRIAEX, Minority Rights Group International, Cenyro de Apoio aoi Desenvolvimento, Movimento Negro Unificado, etc. It is the actions of foreign-sponsored, foreign-initiated groups, that have attempted to address, to make some sort of dent, on the widespread problems in Brazil that a few of the Brazilian posters here continue to deny.
As they say, "racismo cordial."
1999 - http://www.minorityrights.org/1040/reports/afrobrazilians-time-for-recognition.html
2000 - http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/42/133.html
2002 - http://www.minorityrights.org/810/i...ing-exclusion-discrimination-and-poverty.html
2008 - http://ldcommunications.blogspot.com/2008/07/negro-brazilian-congress-for.html
The reason for this? Mainly it's because there is a gross denial within Brazil. This is the huge obstacle. Where once they proudly claimed to be the racial peacenik of nations, the truth eventually came out. Where before it was claimed racism does not exist, report after report has shattered that illusion. It was, and still is, a lie. As mentioned in the previous post, the problem is in a social denial of racism. So now, with analysis and research polls clearly indicating widespread racism, almost all do not believe they themselves are racist. The dichotomy of denial in which 90% feel there is racism, yet 90% feel they are not, themselves, racist.
You know who's really doing anything about this crap? Private groups, such as ABC Trust (sponsored by Jimmy & Jimena Page), CRIAEX, Minority Rights Group International, Cenyro de Apoio aoi Desenvolvimento, Movimento Negro Unificado, etc. It is the actions of foreign-sponsored, foreign-initiated groups, that have attempted to address, to make some sort of dent, on the widespread problems in Brazil that a few of the Brazilian posters here continue to deny.
As they say, "racismo cordial."
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another big post below... :|
As answer to your first post after mine, Hellstromm...
"Racial" programs fail hard and are insensate. imo, it's good when you don't have them.
Still we have a falic (new) program to include "pardo" and black people in universities... Just sad, imo...
Ew... Ahem!... There are social programs around here. There just aren't a good amount of them because the bad behavior of politics in general...
Now allow me to quote you..
The majority of poor people around here is black or pardo.
That's harder to black people get better jobs because they lack good quality in education (public education around here uses to suck.... Worse when they don't have access to it) and also the place where they live, the people around them, is not propicious to a good future.
That's a problem related with the politics around here, don't giving a crap about their people, as I said before.
The why pardo and black people are more exposed to poverty is the past.
Black people were slaves. When they were "dismissed", after the slavery abolition, they weren't hired in any place. Brazilians prefered to hire Europeans that were lured to Brazil, hoping for a better life. <insert conclusion from Captain Obvious here>
Discrimination was a common thing until 50 years ago. My grand parents still DO discriminate black people, unfurtunely :|
It made social ascendancy harder, of course...
The reality around here has changed significantly about discrimination in the past years (not counting sexual discrimination). So social ascendancy is not an ethnic problem anymore in most situations.
"denied jobs and are more prone to being adopted into gangs and instituted into the sex trade." applies to anyone living in poverty. Add now - to the poors - bad education (in school and home) and a bad culture... That's why they are so exposed to these problems. Poor people are exposed, not negros or pardos.
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But when a school is in a bad condition, it won't have a good support to people with disabilities :/ (edit: nevermind! I didn't know the real meaning of the word "prejudice" in English)
Still.. Sexual orientation does matter a lot. In school, in work... They are discriminated.
By the way, I, myself, admit being homophobic :/
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No matter what they say.. the size matters! *rolleyes* It plays a big role in the amount of pleasure you can get *rolleyes*
lol
That's quality and quantity allied with each other. I doubt any country can beat that.
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I was disagreeing with Jax Teller, not denying facts...
Your quote in the end was irrelevant, if that was an answer to me.
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Some girls want, some know what they are doing but have little choice, exceptions go because they got really "fooled", these exceptions are in the news.
The way Jax Teller said, it seemed the main fault was from outsiders...
If a girl is fooled thinking she will have a better life outside Brazil blablabla and ends being a prostitute, there was already a HUGE problem in her life. There was already a "Brazilian problem". If they were "low-class" and had ignorance at their side (allowing themselves to be fooled), the problem was already there, outsiders played a smaller role here.
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Can you see what was my real point now, Hellstromm?
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around US$550.
The part of "half of them receive less than two minimum wages" should still be true.
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My english isn't so good... So if anyone find a mistake, please PM me and I will correct it.
As answer to your first post after mine, Hellstromm...
"Racial" programs fail hard and are insensate.
imo, it's good when you don't have them.Still we have a falic (new) program to include "pardo" and black people in universities... Just sad, imo...
Ew... Ahem!... There are social programs around here. There just aren't a good amount of them because the bad behavior of politics in general...
Now allow me to quote you..
They are treated poorly for very few people and, for the majority of Brazilians, racism is considered an ABOMINABLE thing.......
Historical problem... historical problem................. >_> The ethny plays a very small role here, in the present.
The majority of poor people around here is black or pardo.
That's harder to black people get better jobs because they lack good quality in education (public education around here uses to suck.... Worse when they don't have access to it) and also the place where they live, the people around them, is not propicious to a good future.
That's a problem related with the politics around here, don't giving a crap about their people, as I said before.
The why pardo and black people are more exposed to poverty is the past.
Black people were slaves. When they were "dismissed", after the slavery abolition, they weren't hired in any place. Brazilians prefered to hire Europeans that were lured to Brazil, hoping for a better life. <insert conclusion from Captain Obvious here>
Discrimination was a common thing until 50 years ago. My grand parents still DO discriminate black people, unfurtunely :|
It made social ascendancy harder, of course...
The reality around here has changed significantly about discrimination in the past years (not counting sexual discrimination). So social ascendancy is not an ethnic problem anymore in most situations.
"denied jobs and are more prone to being adopted into gangs and instituted into the sex trade." applies to anyone living in poverty. Add now - to the poors - bad education (in school and home) and a bad culture... That's why they are so exposed to these problems. Poor people are exposed, not negros or pardos.
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I bet this research is terribly biased O_O
Still.. Sexual orientation does matter a lot. In school, in work... They are discriminated.
By the way, I, myself, admit being homophobic :/
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Yes, i should. But still I doubt a country has more beautiful places to offer than this one.
No matter what they say.. the size matters! *rolleyes* It plays a big role in the amount of pleasure you can get *rolleyes*
lol
That's quality and quantity allied with each other. I doubt any country can beat that.
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...... :dry:
I was disagreeing with Jax Teller, not denying facts...
Your quote in the end was irrelevant, if that was an answer to me.
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I disagreed.
Some girls want, some know what they are doing but have little choice, exceptions go because they got really "fooled", these exceptions are in the news.
Exceptions go thinking they will become models.....
The way Jax Teller said, it seemed the main fault was from outsiders...
If a girl is fooled thinking she will have a better life outside Brazil blablabla and ends being a prostitute, there was already a HUGE problem in her life. There was already a "Brazilian problem". If they were "low-class" and had ignorance at their side (allowing themselves to be fooled), the problem was already there, outsiders played a smaller role here.
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Can you see what was my real point now, Hellstromm?
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Just updating a little bit... R$ 930,Hellmstromm said:
around US$550.
The part of "half of them receive less than two minimum wages" should still be true.
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My english isn't so good... So if anyone find a mistake, please PM me and I will correct it.
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Nope, but it's obvious you're terribly biased. Anyway, I read all you posted there, and you do not deny anything I presented, but do add a convenient spin here and there. Anyhow, at this point I presented evidence to support my statements. If you wish to effectively argue your stance, you'll need to provide contra-evidence.
Without the contra-evidence, I will respectfully dismiss your posturings.