The vision of Brazil on other countrys

[DeletedUser]

You should be able to go anywhere on the street, there's some risk of crime everywhere but no where should be out of bounds unless you're unusually vulnerable. Not everywhere is like that, you have a false impression of the rest of the world, properly because you have limited experience outside of that particular environment. Wearing a gold chain is not asking for it in the UK, you certainly wont be killed for it.

The difference is that in the Europe and US, a Gold Chain doesn't cost almost one year of work of a poor person. Poverty causes violence, when you reduces the first, you reduces the second. While some people gain 600~700 euros/year, others gain 70.000 euros/year.

 

[DeletedUser]

This thread is confusing the heck out of me. Skull, you started off sounding like you worked for the Brazilian tourist board and yet your responses to the opinions you asked for make me not at all inclined to ever visit Brazil.

You say that in some parts of cities, "of course they will kill you for your things". Is there a language barrier? What do you mean by "of course"? I can't think of anywhere in Canada where you'd be killed for your stuff. Mugged, perhaps. Killed, no!

You talk about the total lack of racism, which is admittedly a good thing. But then we learn that "Here, some rich people don't like poor people, and some poor people don't like rich people. That's all." That's not trivial in the least. If there is "segregation relationed to the social class", that's every bit as bad as racism. Judging someone based on the social class they happened to be born in to is the same as judging them based on the colour of their skin.

And then, Skull, you seem to adopt the attitude that your generation, whichever that may be, has just thrown their hands up in the air and given up on doing anything about the crime, social prejudice, environmental damage, and left it to the next few generations to try and fix. That is self-defeating and disturbing.

By the way, Brazil is not young. Not by Western Hemisphere standards. It achieved independence in 1822, according to Wikipedia.

 

[DeletedUser]

Besty, I'm not from any tourist company and I don't wish to be XD

I'm a history teacher, and I'm trying to figure what is the vision of the most people around the world.

I love my country. I belive this is better place you can live and I never want to live somewhere else.(but I want to travel all around the world)

I'm giving what is true about my country. The killing thing was just an expretion, there are some mad people who can kill you for nothing but this is another history. The racism that I was talking was about the skin, I didnt entered on any more profund topic.

"And then, Skull, you seem to adopt the attitude that your generation, whichever that may be, has just thrown their hands up in the air and given up on doing anything about the crime, social prejudice, environmental damage, and left it to the next few generations to try and fix. That is self-defeating and disturbing."

I'm not young to make revolutions. The student class need to have councience of what is going on and wish to change it. If age or head don't count you can call me a lazy guy, I'm ok with it. But before do it, think about a social problem that your country have, anyone. Now think that you go to streets and make the revolution alone, knowing that no one will care or maybe 500 people will care about and help. Is this enought? You tell me.

Compare Brazil to Europe. YOu will see that his country is young. If you are from Canada, your country is young too, but you was colonized by French and England, not by portugal.

Your colonization saw your country like a place to grow. Our colonization saw our country like a place to explore.

 

[nashy19]

The difference is that in the Europe and US, a Gold Chain doesn't cost almost one year of work of a poor person. Poverty causes violence, when you reduces the first, you reduces the second. While some people gain 600~700 euros/year, others gain 70.000 euros/year.

The thing is fashionable gold chains are pretty cheap. If I'm camping with friends and one asks me to lend the small yellow gold chain I'm wearing and their sick on it later I probably wont even ask for it back.

It depends what he meant by gold chain, if you were showing off extreme bling there's a chance you'll get mugged... not for wealth but for looking like a ******.

 

[DeletedUser]

I was not talking about a hand made jewel. I was talking about a real jewel. You probably will get robbed, if you react, you will get killed if the guys have anything in his hand

 

[DeletedUser]

Betsy, I've never said that this kind of prejudice is better or worser than racism. Someone said that here we have racism, the only thing i did was to "correct" the kind of prejudice.

nashy, i'm talking about a 18 carat gold piece. At least here, it worths R$800+, about 300 euros, one with 15g.

 

[DeletedUser]

R$ = Real
Real = Brazilian Currency

Keep going, I'm liking this topic, want to know what Nashy have to say :S

 

[DeletedUser]

I don't travel much and don't plan to do it at all in the future, but (of course) I wanted to respond to some of the critical things being said about parts of Brazil.


I've known people who have gone there on vacations and had nothing but good things to say about it. There are many areas that are beautiful and treat visitors extremely well. The fact that there are other places that are as bad as these places are good doesn't make them any less desirable.


I personally would hate to have the entire US judged by what it's like in the inner cities of D.C., Detroit, or many other major cities.

 

[DeletedUser]

I don't travel much and don't plan to do it at all in the future, but (of course) I wanted to respond to some of the critical things being said about parts of Brazil.


I've known people who have gone there on vacations and had nothing but good things to say about it. There are many areas that are beautiful and treat visitors extremely well. The fact that there are other places that are as bad as these places are good doesn't make them any less desirable.


I personally would hate to have the entire US judged by what it's like in the inner cities of D.C., Detroit, or many other major cities.

And I recomend you to come here.

This is one of the best points of brazil. The people here welcome everyone.

 

[DeletedUser]

Brazil seemed to me to be the Whitest and most European Latin American country. The seem to focus their economy on raw materials and laso have many indigenous tribes many of whom are protected from foreigners ... Missionaries and Miners alike, for either would hurt their culture.

Brazil is not the first, nor the second nor the tenth place most people think of when they think of traveling. Yet in the American view ... it isn't Socialist like Venezuela, nor have the drug cartels like Columbia, and isn't has primitive or foreign as say Peru, and doesn't have a Nazi like view as in Argentina.

I have heard though about the beer making and how most brewers get greedy and don't take enough of the foam and such containing methane (bad for you). Though for any country ... don't drink the 'local' beer. Brazil is Brazil. It is what it is ... its cities are like cities everywhere else. As are its problems and people.

 

[DeletedUser]

I love my country. I belive this is better place you can live and I never want to live somewhere else.(but I want to travel all around the world)

Skull - can I just ask you how much of the world you've seen?

What countries have you visited?

 

[DeletedUser]

I've visited Canada. When I was two.

 

[DeletedUser]

That's very nice for you Thomas. I was actually asking Skull though.

I'm just curious as to what countries he's comparing Brazil against when he's saying it's the best place.

 

[DeletedUser]

well, they only things I have heard is it has lots of jungle with tribes with poison darts and hidden temple that Indiana Jones went into to steal a little golden head thing

 

[DeletedUser]

Skull, I've heard that Brazil has an unstable government: one more stable than Mexico, but not entirely solid. Is that true?

 

[DeletedUser]

Brazil seemed to me to be the Whitest and most European Latin American country.

Actually, that would be incorrect.

Yet in the American view ... it isn't Socialist like Venezuela, nor have the drug cartels like Columbia, and isn't has primitive or foreign as say Peru, and doesn't have a Nazi like view as in Argentina.

The leader of the nation of Venezuela is socialist, but the majority of people are not, the drug cartels no longer have a controlling influence in Columbia, Peru is far from primitive, and Argentina is so far away from that tagline of "nazi" as a nation can get. This was unfairly posed when Argentina, being a neutral country during wwII, allowed refugees from the war, both military and civilian, nazi officers and jews, to immigrate into Argentina, not consciously, but because they didn't ask. That was over 65 years ago, and they were not alone. Evidence suggests far more entered the U.S. and Canada.

Regardless, I think you're generalizing from your own opinions, giving it a broadbased call, as if everyone held to your same misnomers.

 

[DeletedUser]

Skull - can I just ask you how much of the world you've seen?

What countries have you visited?

I visited Argentina, USA, Uruguay, Chile, and I west to England. But this travel to Englad as for work, so I didn't had the chance to know the country, since I stayed there for 3 days;

Skull, I've heard that Brazil has an unstable government: one more stable than Mexico, but not entirely solid. Is that true?

It's true. Everyday the midia says in television a new scandal envolving the government. One of our worst presidents who stolen millions of the people is back to the gorvernament now. His name is José Sarney, if you want to know more just google little bit about him, and you will have a big picture how huge are our problems with politics

 

[DeletedUser]

Hellstromm, what is that a picture of? The reddish-orange-pink part? (post #10)

 

[DeletedUser]

One big hole in the Amazon where it was destroyed. There are several in there.

 

[DeletedUser]

It's run-off in the Rio de la Plata delta.

It's not a hole in the Amazon rainforest itself - it's one of the results. Deforestation means that soil is no longer held in place by plantation. The result of this is that soil gets swept away by rains into nearby rivers and streams.