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I think that making religion illegal would probably get more people going to church than any of the current methods of recruitment. There just seems to be something intriguing about clandestine meetings and hidden "knowledge".
Correction, I'm not aware of your distorted views of the bible.
You have been severely mislead by your religion in many matters, but that is neither here nor now.
See, you just prove my point-you look forward to the death of billions of people! This is why religion is dangerous. Crazy cooks making predictions that never come true. Blondie, look at the lsit of failed JW prophecies.
Predictions (by date of publication) include (I was lazy and got these from wikipedia, but I can back up a few of those, and sources are provided):
- 1877: Christ's kingdom would hold full sway over the earth in 1914; the Jews, as a people, would be restored to God's favour; the "saints" would be carried to heaven.[54]
- 1891: 1914 would be "the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men."[55]
- 1904: "World-wide anarchy" would follow the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.[56]
- 1916: World War I would terminate in Armageddon and the rapture of the "saints".[57]
- 1917: In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions." Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy". The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing.[58]
- 1920: Messiah's kingdom would be established in 1925 and bring worldwide peace. God would begin restoring the earth. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful patriarchs would be resurrected to perfect human life and be made princes and rulers, the visible representatives of the New Order on earth. Those who showed themselves obedient to God would never die.[59]
- 1922: The antitypical "jubilee" that would mark God's intervention in earthly affairs in 1925 would take place in "probably the fall" of that year.[60] The chronology was described as "correct beyond a doubt",[46] "absolutely and unqualifiedly correct",[47] bearing "the stamp of approval of Almighty God"[47] and "too sublime to be the result of chance or of human invention".[47]
- 1924: God's restoration of the Earth would begin "shortly after" October 1, 1925. Jerusalem would be made the world's capital. Resurrected "princes" such as Abel, Noah, Moses and John the Baptist would give instructions to their subjects around the world by radio, and aeroplanes would transport people to and from Jerusalem from all parts of the globe in just "a few hours".[61]
- 1938: In 1938, Armaggedon was too close for marriage or child bearing.[62]
- 1941: There were only "months" remaining until Armageddon.[63]
- 1942: Armageddon was "immediately before us."[64]
- 1966: It would be 6000 years since man's creation in the fall of 1975 and it would be "appropriate" for Christ's thousand-year reign to begin at that time.[65] Time was "running out, no question about that."[66] The "immediate future" was "certain to be filled with climactic events ... within a few years at most", the final parts of Bible prophecy relating to the "last days" would undergo fulfillment as Christ's reign began.
- 1968: No one could say "with certainty" that the battle of Armageddon would begin in 1975, but time was "running out rapidly" with "earthshaking events" soon to take place.[67] In March 1968 there was a "short period of time left", with "only about ninety months left before 6000 years of man's existence on earth is completed".[68]
- 1969: Human existence would not last long enough for young people to grow old; the world system would end "in a few years". Young Witnesses were told not to bother pursuing tertiary education for this reason.[69]
- 1974: There was just a "short time remaining before the wicked world's end" and Witnesses were commended for selling their homes and property to "finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service".[70]
- 1984: There were "many indications" that "the end" was closer than the end of the 20th century.[71]
And if possible, try and not to lose your short temper and resort to name calling, if you can.
Blondie14 said:since you're too ignorant to grasp the more deep things of the scriptures.
Look into it before claiming apostate's made them, and define apostate anyway.Huh, interesting, it seems you have no idea whaat you're talking about, most of those things were rumors started by apostates. And for the few that weren't, i never said we were perfect, we have a further grasp of the Bible than before, and it continues to grow.
Do you ever think of the false proofs of evolution, just one was in the 70's where you guys had the bones of the missing link, such was spoken of as fact for more than a decade, and it was proven that they were orangutan bones. So don't start with your fake evidences of the fallacy of my belief. You have no grasp of what you're talking about, but go on speaking of it as if you do. If you actually want to know about Jehovah's Witnesses, ask me or another Jehovah's Witness. Rather than the internet.
That would be like me reading something on the internet about you that was written by someone who has never met and me drawing a conclusion about you by it. It's wrong, and you know it.
And if possible, try and not to lose your short temper and resort to name calling, if you can.
Taxing religion would be great.Banning religion probably wont work. :/ It sounds nice, but it simply wont have any real effect. HOWEVER, we can tax the income of churches, which would be a very nice step in the right direction.
Btw, there is not "anti evolution proof" especially if you're referring to micro evolution.(Denying micro evolution makes you sound very silly.)
Taxing religion would be great.
A step in the right direction.
Taxing religion would be great.
A step in the right direction.
Look into it before claiming apostate's made them, and define apostate anyway.
I have plenty grasp of what I'm speaking about, though I'm not willing to discuss it here. Ministry, 144,000, disfellowship, sound familar?
The point I was making is just like before you're prophecying something, and you have a veeerrry bad track record, specially for a religion that calls others "false prophets."
Even if most those were faked, it still proves you've already failed many prophecies and are still doing so.
Evolution has been proven is the problem with that, however even if it had been disproven by one mistake, it isn't a belief system like religion, I don't live by the principles and belief system of evolution, I just accept it, like most rational people do.
But all you want to do is, stomp, shout and not reply when you can't get your way. You might enjoy the "ignoranc is bliss" thread a little bit more
Look at eliel's post.well, i would like to see some examples then.
Where was religion succesfully banned because it was made illegal?
Nope, but their minds are much less poisoned then before.so you say that there isn't a person in Estonia who is religious?
Find that hard to believe...
True, I wasn't supporting the Soviet Union. What I was saying is that it shows it could be done effectively.Well, you can argue the fact that there minds weren't poisened..
I found some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union
Marxism and stuff like that isn't that good for the free mind either.