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Remind yourself the American Economy screwed up because you guys' 'borrow-and-spend-then-borrow-again' cycle failed.

the effective way is to STOP SPENDING, PAY YOUR DEBTS ON TIME AND START SAVING LIKE THE CHINESE.

not going hatemongering how the South Americans took your jobs, blah blah blah and all the Racist talks. Not citing that 'Revolution will save the day' (unless that's a SOCIALIST REVOLUTION, not a REVOLUTION for the Whites to "take back OUR jobs and run the African Americans and the South Americans into the sea" thing. N O)
 
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Thomas, my questions still stand. What about the rights of African Americans? What jobs do "millions of Hispanics" take?
And most of all, how does the total economic capitulation lead to (or even relate to) the Weimar Republic?

Since you consider yourself educated, wise and intelligent, you don't have troubles answering these, do you?

1. Rights of African Americans: There will be a long time before total equality can be achieved, as both races are sometimes unwilling to accept each other, though the hatred is lessening (But 'Bama may screw that up for some of the Rednecks and some blacks), and if both races were to just put down their hatred of one another, then things will go along well, but neither side will stop making limitless accusations and the current state still stands as a racist problem. Its no one race that is causing problems, both African Americans and Caucasians contribute to the problem by racial insults and demeanor.

2. Hispanics take the jobs that white people don't want to do for a low income, and go a few quarters cheaper. In a sense, hell, they ARE doing the jobs white people wouldn't want to.

3. Weimar Republic??? :unsure::huh::blink:
 

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Screw it.

Schofield:

1. Racism, I believe, started as a defense mechanism. Say you were in tribe A. You recently accepted a new wanderer as a tribesman, but not only does he look a lot like a B tribesman, but he also acts differently. As logic, which was crude but effective back then, dictates you should investigate/attack/etc. him, you would likely do so. More than often, you were right about your actions. Of course, you were wrong every now and then. As true then as now, but we are more paranoid and make more mistakes.

3. This.
 
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I have to say, the point about Christianity and other religions being stomped out, is nonsense. CHRISTIANITY VALUE IS STOMPED RIGHT OUT ALREADY. Simply look at the divorce rate, at the casual attitude Americans or pretty much the Westerners towards sex, (15-year old mums, plentiful), like in a movie the female protagonist can be shown sleeping with two-plus male characters. and I don't see how bombing civilians in the Middle-East can fit Christianity values at any rate, Right-Wing propaganda is simply nonsense. Heard of Bush claiming how 'It was God who told me to start a war on Iraq to significantly reduce population of the Earth, to induce evolution of mankind by firing depleted Uranium shells and poison the infants and pregnant women nearby, and to lie to the whole world that Weapon of Mass Education really exists in Iraq before American troops conquered the Iraq and Afghanistan to install a new oil pipeline from inland to shore to make oil-transportation more efficient' Of course, this isn't what he said, but that's what really what he SHOULD have said. Not how 'God told him to remove the "EVIL" regime of Iraq, how to display Christianity value through bombing the terrorist and proclaiming conquest of the Middle-East by the every-strong American Army', no thanks.
so please, leave religion views out of this. Your post disgusts me.

Eyackh. And I thought you were intelligent.

#1. If civilians died in the bombings, it was an unfortunate mistake. The target of the bombing was the IRAQI REGIME. Tyrants, not innocents. You should really consider revising your history of the Iraq War.

#2. Furthermore, WMD were reported by the intelligence department. The Iraqi government tested it on their own people; they DISPOSED OF THEIR ARMANENT before we got there. They were also violating other sanctions.

#3. I agree about the borrow-spend-borrow system. It's ruined our economy, because the majority of Americans are idiots who can't use logic in their day-to-day lives.

#4. They didn't ruin our economy, but illegals certainly aren't helping. By offering to work for less money, they take jobs from legal Americans (native OR immigrant), and often bring violence and drugs with them. In addition, they are a giant leech sucking off the government, by taking up education, health care, and infrastructure money. I have no problem if people immigrate, so long as they do so LEGALLY.
 
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#1. If civilians died in the bombings, it was an unfortunate mistake. The target of the bombing was the IRAQI REGIME. Tyrants, not innocents. You should really consider revising your history of the Iraq War.

#2. Furthermore, WMD were reported by the intelligence department. The Iraqi government tested it on their own people; they DISPOSED OF THEIR ARMANENT before we got there. They were also violating other sanctions.


#4. They didn't ruin our economy, but illegals certainly aren't helping. By offering to work for less money, they take jobs from legal Americans (native OR immigrant), and often bring violence and drugs with them. In addition, they are a giant leech sucking off the government, by taking up education, health care, and infrastructure money. I have no problem if people immigrate, so long as they do so LEGALLY.

So you're telling me of the hundreds of thousands and even some say up to ONE MILLION life lost in Iraq is due to inaccurate bombings? inaccurate shots? Baffles me how US can claim their army of accuracy. That's killing just about 100 Civilians to 1 terrorist. DON'T START TELLING ME YOU GOT ANY TERRORISTS. Isn't the law liable to excuse any criminals that have doubt in accusations against 'em? Even though its near-crystal-clear is him who was caught red-handed? what makes you think its right in Iraq to always blame 'Inaccuracy, they got in the way, blah blah blah, I got bored. but HEY, I got ONE Terrorist after I bombed his home to bits. All the children and women were all, well, you know, collateral damage. better yet, they're the future terrorist that will threaten AMERICAN lives. We just became heroes'

WMD - WMD does not exist until the Americans came along. Until they came along with the depleted Uranium Shells. Until they came with the Hellfire missiles that have records of targeting the wrong person(s). Until they came with the M-16s that all-too-often hit civilians instead of terrorists. THE WMD spells 'A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S'

About South Americans taking away your jobs - exactly the same tone of hatemongering against China for controlling currency exchange rate bull****. You are incompetent, you can't accept low wages (ever wonder how come THEY made a living with the wages why the 'true' Americans can't?) You still believe in White-Superiority. That's why. Not because either the Chinese refused to raise the value of RMB or else 1 MILLION JOBS CAN BE CREATED (BULL) , or how the South Americans took your jobs. Please, we're passed that. Its your own fault, face it. If you're really good the employer would have chosen you instead . . . plus, you're one of his kind, so to speak.
 

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Do put that -excellent insight- in the lavatory. It's unclean to keep it in your brain.
 
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#2. Furthermore, WMD were reported by the intelligence department. The Iraqi government tested it on their own people; they DISPOSED OF THEIR ARMANENT before we got there. They were also violating other sanctions.


http://intelligence.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298775

"Unfortunately, our Committee has concluded that the Administration made significant claims that were not supported by the intelligence"
especially:
"Statements [...] regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing."
"The Secretary of Defense’s statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information."



And why did you avoid my questions twice now? It appears, you just threw some big words around and have no idea to back them up.
 

DeletedUser14029

Thomas, face it. Other than calling me a fool you have no other form of retaliation.
Which, sounds ASTONISHINGLY like you are simply in denial. You have my sympathy.
 

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Thomas, face it. Other than calling me a fool you have no other form of retaliation.
Which, sounds ASTONISHINGLY like you are simply in denial. You have my sympathy.


Proud to call you a WTVL alliance member in w12... Well played.


My inclusions in this thread would be less then constructive... so I'll stay out of this one ;)
 

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I most certainly have knowledge. I read at a college level. I know a MASSIVE amount of history in comparison to any classmate of mine. Here's a sample (I'm just posting stuff off the top of my head, for this):
The Pelopenessian War (I know, I misspelled the name of the peninsula) was fought between Athens and Sparta. Athen's rise after the defeat of Persia in the Greco-Persian War lead to the formation of the Delian League, which had similarities to the Soviet client state system.
Sparta, claiming that they were freeing city-states from Athenian tyranny, led the attack against them. The Spartan Army surrounded Athens. Pericles convinced Athen's population to wait inside, rather than dare go out and be slaughtered by a vastly superior army.
In the end, Athens made the mistake of trying to conquer silver-rich territory and, while weak, was razed by Sparta.

All of that: facts I learned from self-education.

Just saying, but The Pelopenessian War is like 6th/7th Grade material, not college material. Unless your in fourth grade, the fact that you know this doesn't mean your SO advanced in comparison to your classmates.
 

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only how foolish his classmates were not equipped with the knowledge :)
having done what you're expected to do doesn't make you smarter than those that didn't fulfill the tasks...
Rilly Rob, nicely said XD
 

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your knowledge of the Peloponnesian war is rather embarrassing if your supposed to be the top of your class.there is a guy in my class who is only there to hand out sheets could give a better account of the war.
 

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I have to laugh at the kid who thinks that by giving his "knowledge of some ancient war," that he has some vast amount of knowledge...The same kid who claims that he has high critical thinking skills parrots right-wing talking points that anyone with an average IQ and access to google can refute...I have to especially laugh at the Iraq War / WMD comments...Those of us who weren't in our single-digit years here...And there are quite a few, know that any person with access to...GOOGLE, could have told you that the WMD claims were falsified.

I have no desire to rehash most of these arguments as I do so on other fora, but let's just say, kiddo, I congratulate Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity for their brainwashing of you...They got you young and impressionable.

Oh, and BTW, you might want to check out your fantastic, "Libertarian Party" and their point of view on the Iraq War...You will be in for a bit of cognitive dissonance when you do.
 

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I have to laugh at the kid who thinks that by giving his "knowledge of some ancient war," that he has some vast amount of knowledge...The same kid who claims that he has high critical thinking skills parrots right-wing talking points that anyone with an average IQ and access to google can refute...I have to especially laugh at the Iraq War / WMD comments...Those of us who weren't in our single-digit years here...And there are quite a few, know that any person with access to...GOOGLE, could have told you that the WMD claims were falsified.

I have no desire to rehash most of these arguments as I do so on other fora, but let's just say, kiddo, I congratulate Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity for their brainwashing of you...They got you young and impressionable.

Oh, and BTW, you might want to check out your fantastic, "Libertarian Party" and their point of view on the Iraq War...You will be in for a bit of cognitive dissonance when you do.


I'm more of a Libertarian than Thomas Franklin :rolleyes:
 

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I'm impressed. dcgincc knows the phrase "cognitive dissonance". When I first read the post I settled in for a mess of "leet" and other bad English, but his grammar, while not without flaws, didn't detract from his superb vocabulary.

I may not agree with all of the Libertarian Party's views. That's the good thing about not agreeing with all the drivel your party states.

Firstly, I was just using that brief history of that war as an example. I am far above the average child my age in terms of pure knowledge. I mean, really: I heard this question the other day in class:
But don't they know that the bomb's going to kill them?
(we were talking about the Chechen terrorists; specifically, suicide bombers).
Thank God most of my class was smart enough to yell out:
"That's why their called SUICIDE bombers!"

Nonetheless, this is a hopeless cause. Liberals are so IDIOTIC, so indoctrinated by their party that they believe themselves superior in every argument....
Your kind disgusts me.

Oh, and somebody said that "FOX News is not self-education".
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT POLITICS!
I WAS REFERRING TO READIN', WRITIN' AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF!
STUFF YOU GET FROM BOOKS!
 
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your brief history is wrong.
who's a liberal.
you read and write!so do 5 year olds do you color inside the lines as well.
 

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I do find this scene entertaining, as well as disturbing.

When I was a kid, back in the Jurassic period, I read just about everything that was hanging around, ate up the World Book Childcraft books in my kinder years, every volume and almost every page of the World Book encyclopedia, dictionary, books on child psychology, etc and so on. We had walls of books, and I read almost all of them. Despite this, I never presumed to be more intelligent than anyone else --- and I still don't --- because intelligence doesn't reside in knowledge (although knowledge can support intelligence).

Surrounded by physicists, biologists, Berkeley educated veterinarians, physicians, rock stars, athletes, notable actors and other millionaires, I found each of them with strengths and weaknesses. I do not consider them my betters, nor do they presume to be better than me (or, if they do, I quickly remind them of their inequities and we are once again on even terms). By this same token, I am surrounded by real estate agents, clerks, bridal consultants, nurses, firemen, gymnasts, journalists, photographers, graphic artists, accountants, housewives, homeless vets, and disabled persons, each of which I treat as equals, assuming they do the same. But I firmly respect their expertise and will query them to their demise if given the opportunity. Every person, young and old, sharp or dull, has something to share, some insight to provide, and in turn I provide insights of my own, in a form of social trade. So when you talk about your classmates with such disdain, it presents to me that you do not recognize the value of others and have posed narrow definitions to classify yourself as "better" than others. This is a false sell, a trick of the mind, a conceit that poses a greater issue before us, and hopefully before you, that conscious, actively supported lies are far more damaging than mere apathy.

But, this is not an issue of who is smarter or more knowledgeable, and Thomas' comments here are a demonstration of the misinformation being presented to gullible people who do not foster the strength of character to research what is presented to them so readily (in fact, when Thomas mentioned he gained his education on history from a video game, my jaw just about struck the ground. I just hope he doesn't confuse Sonic the Hedgehog with actual hedgehogs or, less of a stretch, Lara Croft for real women, let alone the historical distortions presented in that game, and so many others). Thomas does not know what he's talking about. It is not knowledge, and certainly not wisdom, that defines his perceptions. Instead it is fears and hatred, presented with a vitriolic smacking of the keyboard. And in these meager efforts, he expects others to blindly accept his unsupported allegations as factual.

Thomas, I really don't care how smart you think you are, the fact is there are a lot of people with far more knowledge and understanding on various fields that you purport to be an expert on at your ripe old age of pubescence. Let's face it, when you have one dollar, you can claim to be richer than a person with 99 cents, but you're still poor as crap. And so is the status of your knowledge. At this stage in your development, you're academically bankrupt. When you argue your stances, when you pose your claims, it is with a check that will bounce, a credit card denied, a wallet empty of coupons, let alone hard-earned cash. Running this metaphor to its economic collapse, you simply do not have the backing to set up shop and claim to be a financial consultant. You don't even have enough to setup a lemonade stand.
 
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But don't they know that the bomb's going to kill them?
(we were talking about the Chechen terrorists; specifically, suicide bombers).
Thank God most of my class was smart enough to yell out:
"That's why their called SUICIDE bombers!"

Oh, and somebody said that "FOX News is not self-education".
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT POLITICS!
I WAS REFERRING TO READIN', WRITIN' AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF!
STUFF YOU GET FROM BOOKS!

1) That's only an average answer. The proper answer should be 'because they're disgusted with the Russians, in terms of difference in Religion and conflicts in the past. THEY ARE SUICIDE BOMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF FIGHTING BACK, being technologically backward and pwned by the Russians. The other way that I know of is human-wave tactic, but that with the advancement in explosives has now been rendered obsolete'

2) Politics is what you should be reading from books. Reciting facts from books is cheap. How you interpret and understand the issue is more important. EVERYBODY can recite how the Soviet Union planned the counter-offence from Day 1 of German Invasion to the day Hitler killed himself, copying from books or simply from Wikipedia. Its HOW Hitler managed to cheat the whole world with politics and diplomacy that's more important.

3) You are, 12?
 

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1) That's only an average answer. The proper answer should be 'because they're disgusted with the Russians, in terms of difference in Religion and conflicts in the past. THEY ARE SUICIDE BOMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF FIGHTING BACK, being technologically backward and pwned by the Russians. The other way that I know of is human-wave tactic, but that with the advancement in explosives has now been rendered obsolete'

2) Politics is what you should be reading from books. Reciting facts from books is cheap. How you interpret and understand the issue is more important. EVERYBODY can recite how the Soviet Union planned the counter-offence from Day 1 of German Invasion to the day Hitler killed himself, copying from books or simply from Wikipedia. Its HOW Hitler managed to cheat the whole world with politics and diplomacy that's more important.

3) You are, 12?

1) If anything, America helped the terrorist regimes substancially, because of donated weapons (I.E. Stinger missle launchers, now used to down American aircraft and choppers), trained the soldiers of the regimes, and financially aided to some effect. Over all, American hatred for Russia brought this to happen; had we just let Russia take over the area, we would have lost our oil, and Russia would possibly still be a superpower. But we helped them, and we are facing an enemy that is NOWHERE NEAR formidable.

2) I agree 110%

3) I thought he had said 13 :huh:
 
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3) I thought he had said 13 :huh:

Oh nos I can't believe. When I was 13 I learn to keep my mouth shut and not babble nonsense o_O already

Edit: Okay that's plain stupid I am not falling as low as Thomas :p
I didn't read the post about his age . . . I give!
 
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