Up for hire! Week 8 bidding has begun!

[Ripwise]

I believe the complaint was that Dodge was KO'd and should not be able to initiate a duel until his 24 hour KO time has elapsed, but he was initiating duels again before the 24 hours have elapsed.

Have no idea if this is true or not as would need to see the duel reports in question.

It would make it useless to gang up and KO him though, if he can just break the normal rules and start dueling again in less than 24 hours. I guess that is totally up to the mods, but it would be nice to know what rules apply ( obviously he is exempt from weapon level limits ) and which rules do not.

Like I said above, I have no idea if this is true or not, just trying to clarify a previous post.

I see your point. I am not sure also about what hapened so i will wait until someone who handles this event posts the exact rules or something.

 

[Diminished Fifth]

William Bresnaham is correct. I saw him when he was under 72 hour no duel last night, right after it happened. This morning, he's just sleeping- which tells me that at some random point he will wake up and attack someone else. And yes, I'm keeping an eye on him- he's already attacked once, and I have things I wish to do which don't involve being KOd by some idiot bot.

 

[Nisa]

Did you guys ever participate in game event?

If not I will try to explain. When there is a game event on world NPC players ( and in some events like CTF/CTG ) special options are activated.

Events are timed so special options are needed. For example in Pirate event KO protection is removed, one team knocks out one player but that player is able to go back in game and use buffs. It wouldnt make sence to eliminate a player for good from event. Point is to slow him down.
Same in Up for hire event. One player hired him for a week. If other players were able to KO the NPC and npc is under normal KO protection rules, he wouldnt be able to do his already limited tasks. He is limited with number of bounties and duels per day. There is no point in hiring him if he will be out of game.

 

[DeletedUser]

Did you guys ever participate in game event?

If not I will try to explain. When there is a game event on world NPC players ( and in some events like CTF/CTG ) special options are activated.

Dodge the Bounty Hunter is different than the other events I was familiar with as those events that involved dueling you had to 'Opt In' to participate and the rules were explained in advance.

Thanks for the info, don't really care what the rules are, as long as they are clearly explained.

Events are timed so special options are needed. For example in Pirate event KO protection is removed, one team knocks out one player but that player is able to go back in game and use buffs. It wouldnt make sence to eliminate a player for good from event. Point is to slow him down.
Same in Up for hire event. One player hired him for a week. If other players were able to KO the NPC and npc is under normal KO protection rules, he wouldnt be able to do his already limited tasks. He is limited with number of bounties and duels per day. There is no point in hiring him if he will be out of game.

 

[Diminished Fifth]

There is no point in hiring him if he will be out of game.

No point in putting him in the game in the first place. The only way to opt out, is to opt out of The West. If that's what you want everyone to do, then close the game down.

Or, you MIGHT just consider listening to the players, and instead of piling crap on top of stupid on top of boring, and still not accomplishing the goal of evening out the dueling, you could just drop the almighty stupid dueling motivation thing, and limit the disparity between potential dueling partners to, like, 10 levels, and everybody could go back to doing a little bit of everything The West had to offer, instead of having to be serious specialists to do anything.

 

[DeletedUser35101]

Another question about Dodge.. He was won and is on Colorado now.. So, why is he shown on other worlds in rankings too (experience and duel ranking)?
And so differently?

On w12 and Arizona he's in last spot in experience and duel ranking.. also as lvl 1

On Dakota he's in spot 8 with over 15 mil in exp points in exp ranking, spot 1 in duel section with 14 mil points.. and also shown as lvl 145..

And why at all should an NCP be shown in rankings in first place?! hahah even more one that isn't present on world.. :/
Why only Doge and not other 3 NPC?!

 

[Nisa]

Another question about Dodge.. He was won and is on Colorado now.. So, why is he shown on other worlds in rankings too (experience and duel ranking)?
And so differently?

On w12 and Arizona he's in last spot in experience and duel ranking.. also as lvl 1

On Dakota he's in spot 8 with over 15 mil in exp points in exp ranking, spot 1 in duel section with 14 mil points.. and also shown as lvl 145..

And why at all should an NCP be shown in rankings in first place?! hahah even more one that isn't present on world.. :/
Why only Doge and not other 3 NPC?!

Dakota fixed for now,thank you , but they will be active on each world at some point

 

[DeletedUser]

Thanks everyone for your input. We will let Doge know he is too strong as it is at the moment and hopefully you will forgive him, it's his first week with us

Player should be able to win a duel against him as we originally stated. Real duelers of course.

I will have a few words with him and hopefully when you meet him next time it will be more pleasant experience for players.

Having been duelled by Doge, I would say that he is well over powered. With a pure duel build, he KO'd me pretty swiftly without me even touching him. I get that he needs to be powerful to make it worth while collecting the bounties, but a pure dueller should stand some sort of a chance against him.

 

[DeletedUser35003]

Did you guys ever participate in game event?

If not I will try to explain. When there is a game event on world NPC players ( and in some events like CTF/CTG ) special options are activated.

Events are timed so special options are needed. For example in Pirate event KO protection is removed, one team knocks out one player but that player is able to go back in game and use buffs. It wouldnt make sence to eliminate a player for good from event. Point is to slow him down.
Same in Up for hire event. One player hired him for a week. If other players were able to KO the NPC and npc is under normal KO protection rules, he wouldnt be able to do his already limited tasks. He is limited with number of bounties and duels per day. There is no point in hiring him if he will be out of game.

In game events, you get punished/banned/etc for dueling people not in the event, so if you think Doge duelling players is ok, I wouldnt make this comparison

 

[DeletedUser36273]

Can I ask the mods something?
Just a few things I want to know...
Why is the west turning into a game when the number one player is a bot?
Why is the west turning into a slot machine?
Why can Doge change his duel level willingly and use weapons not even his level?
How are we supposed to "Outbid" him if he already makes profit for the buyer? and just makes him a richer spoiled brat?
Finally I would like to know...
Why can't you guys just leave things alone? Like all these new sets making this game boring and not challenging. Not to mention now you can buy a whole perineum account on a non premium world!

My final request is that these premium accounts are deactivated on the world Colorado and if that isn't to much to ask then simply make them just like a regular account.

 

[DeletedUser34315]

What on earth is with all you people's sudden hate of game events?
Seriously, this is an awesome opportunity, not to mention that moderators playing directly is almost always beneficial. The more often they play, the more likely they are to understand the players.

 

[DeletedUser33353]

What on earth is with all you people's sudden hate of game events?
Seriously, this is an awesome opportunity, not to mention that moderators playing directly is almost always beneficial. The more often they play, the more likely they are to understand the players.

Agreed GG. We often shoot at each at other, but you have summed up the crux of it all.

This is an event, one that all players can take part in. Premie or not. I wish these things were around when I stumbled into this world.

Complain if anyone wants, but.....anything constructive, please toss in the correct forum.

 

[DeletedUser36011]

There is just a ton of criticism going around atm regarding these things. Mostly by people who have no idea of the purpose/mechanics of how these are working. Fair enough to complain about them, but complain about them because you understand not because you are aggrieved.

 

[DeletedUser8627]

In game events, you get punished/banned/etc for dueling people not in the event, so if you think Doge duelling players is ok, I wouldnt make this comparison

You're talking about the CTF event, this is not a CTF event. Each event comes with it's own specific rules because we need those rules in place to prevent abuse especially since we give player accounts GM features during the course of CTF. Without these feature we cannot successfully run the CTF event.

Another question about Dodge.. He was won and is on Colorado now.. So, why is he shown on other worlds in rankings too (experience and duel ranking)?
And so differently?

Doge was added to all worlds when the account was registered, he was only properly set up in world Colorado since this will be the first world he will be playing on. Dakota was just test purposes and Nisa has already sorted out the options on the account.

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This has already been explained to some extent - regarding the duel protection. Doge is set to not have duel protection active on the account since the winning bidder has only a limited time utilizing his skills. To incorporate some balance, from the next event we will be offering player awards to those who are able to successfully KO him.

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Just to give you some insight on targets we allow Doge to attack. Depending on the bid amount determines on how many successful bounties the winning bidder may receive within a 24 hour period. If a player has a bounty on their head, they can be repeatedly attacked to try and retrieve that bounty (Doge still follows the 1 hour cool down period between duels). Doge also has a limited amount of targets that do not have bounties on their heads he can duel within 24 hours to try and receive some extra cash - these players cannot be duelled more than once per 24 hours.

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Another concern that was brought up in this thread is players complaining we are making the rich even more rich. I can understand that some feel this way but judging by the end rewards, it is not that much more than what they initially paid to win the NPC. Of course, we like to give a little extra to the winning bidder which we do since this is an event. But if someone is going to pay a couple of million dollars to participate in the event it is only fitting we make it worth their while.

In that same breath, we will be adjusting our rules so that our NPCs can be won by a larger variety of players during the bidding process. We will be restricting a player to only bid on one NPC per week as well as a winning bidder will forfeit the next week's bidding if he owned an NPC the previous week.

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Finally, please do not stray off topic. A number of posts in here are complaints about the new duelling system, premium accounts, buying skills and attribute etc... that have absolutely nothing to do with the event. Please make use of the appropriate threads on the forum to share your concerns regarding these features. Complaining in this thread about them will just be ignored and deleted. Thank you!

 

[DeletedUser36011]

Can I ask the mods something?
Just a few things I want to know...
Why is the west turning into a game when the number one player is a bot?
Why is the west turning into a slot machine?
Why can Doge change his duel level willingly and use weapons not even his level?
How are we supposed to "Outbid" him if he already makes profit for the buyer? and just makes him a richer spoiled brat?
Finally I would like to know...
Why can't you guys just leave things alone? Like all these new sets making this game boring and not challenging. Not to mention now you can buy a whole perineum account on a non premium world!

My final request is that these premium accounts are deactivated on the world Colorado and if that isn't to much to ask then simply make them just like a regular account.

You think that you actually make money from these events... kinda funny really

 

[DeletedUser29831]

Another concern that was brought up in this thread is players complaining we are making the rich even more rich. I can understand that some feel this way but judging by the end rewards, it is not that much more than what they initially paid to win the NPC. Of course, we like to give a little extra to the winning bidder which we do since this is an event. But if someone is going to pay a couple of million dollars to participate in the event it is only fitting we make it worth their while.

In that same breath, we will be adjusting our rules so that our NPCs can be won by a larger variety of players during the bidding process. We will be restricting a player to only bid on one NPC per week as well as a winning bidder will forfeit the next week's bidding if he owned an NPC the previous week.

I might add that in pure cash you do not always earn more than you paid for a NPC. I don't think I'll give away any secrets with that. Nice changes, DaTwista, but why not incorporate an automatic extension to avoid bid sniping. For example, if a bid is placed at 23.59, the deadline is extended to 00.04. That way the ones willing to pay the most gets the NPC, not the one timing his bid the best.

 

[DeletedUser8627]

I might add that in pure cash you do not always earn more than you paid for a NPC. I don't think I'll give away any secrets with that. Nice changes, DaTwista, but why not incorporate an automatic extension to avoid bid sniping. For example, if a bid is placed at 23.59, the deadline is extended to 00.04. That way the ones willing to pay the most gets the NPC, not the one timing his bid the best.

We have already made this change and will be announced in our week 9 announcement. To give you a quick summary: Any bids created after 23:58 PM will increase the ending date/time by 3 minutes with each additional bid. I'll explain that in more detail later on.

Week 9 I don't think will have much of a problem with stealing NPCs at the last minute though, we will have a possible 25 winning bids.

Keep your eyes peeled

 

[Pankreas PorFavor]

We have a situation where a handful of moderators are trying to make this game more interesting and challenging for everyone. In the process, they make mistakes. That is perfectly normal. We as players can voice our opinions and help them to make the event better for everyone.
Complaining about being dueled is not helping anyone or anything. This is the first week that we have Doge around and if you expected it to be perfect from the start - you are naive.
I am looking forward to Doge returning, this time a bit more realistically skilled, giving us a chance to survive a duel against him, or even knocking him out. And if the player who succeeds in KOing him gets a reward - that's great!
Thanks to everyone who participates, especially the mods running the NPCs. I hope one day I will have a chance to win a bid for one of them. And if it's Doge that I get - be VERY afraid

 

[DeletedUser]

We have a situation where a handful of moderators are trying to make this game more interesting and challenging for everyone. In the process, they make mistakes. That is perfectly normal. We as players can voice our opinions and help them to make the event better for everyone.
Complaining about being dueled is not helping anyone or anything. This is the first week that we have Doge around and if you expected it to be perfect from the start - you are naive.
I am looking forward to Doge returning, this time a bit more realistically skilled, giving us a chance to survive a duel against him, or even knocking him out. And if the player who succeeds in KOing him gets a reward - that's great!
Thanks to everyone who participates, especially the mods running the NPCs. I hope one day I will have a chance to win a bid for one of them. And if it's Doge that I get - be VERY afraid

Yes, it is a work in progress, and having the rules clarified will help a lot, both so the bidder knows what he/she is bidding for and the players in the world that Dodge arrives in know what they are dealing with.

The bidding changes are also nice.

Hopefully they will update the first post in this thread with the new rules/details.

 

[Nisa]

Yes, it is a work in progress, and having the rules clarified will help a lot, both so the bidder knows what he/she is bidding for and the players in the world that Dodge arrives in know what they are dealing with.

The bidding changes are also nice.

Hopefully they will update the first post in this thread with the new rules/details.

No need to update the post in this thread. Week 8 is ending tomorrow, but there will be a completely new post when we announce week 9.