This is the Republican idea of taking out your opposition

[DeletedUser28116]

Fact: Three of the four US presidents who have been assassinated were Republicans.

Fact: The majority of US presidential assassination attempts have targeted Republicans.

Derived Theory from the above facts: Democrats are assassins!

Truth: The derived theory is as asinine a statement as is the premise of this thread.

Opinion: I have no idea what this sick SOB's party is or what his political leanings are. He needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and, if and when he is found guilty, receive the maximum possible penalty. Trying to tie this to Sarah Palin in any capacity is the equivalent of Dan White using the "Twinkie defense" in justifying his killing Harvey Milk and George Moscone. In case no one has noticed, we're all playing a game that gives points and money for shooting other people. There are people searching hard for guns, rifles and swords that with improve the chances to KO more often ... and we classify them as "Golden". Granted, we don't "kill" in this game ... people get knocked out or pass out and they can sleep it off. We glorify ambushing people, robbing stagecoaches, robbing banks, etc. We need to keep in mind that there are many who would say that our political correctness is nonexistent just by participating in this game. If some crazy tried to say that they were inspired by this game to commit a crime, how many of us would say, "I probably need to quit playing The West"? I doubt very many.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm pretty sure you are forgetting a few facts there buddy.


Didn't know being left wing automatically make you anti-religion or vica versa,
nor did I know that only liberals smoked pot.

Thanks for clearing that up.

like what don't retreat reload? that could mean anything. it could mean don't give up. don't let the opposition take you out. I hardly count that as evidence for what this loon did.

traditionally here in America Republicans tend to be more open to religion and listening to some of the rhetoric used by the left on this forum you would never guess that they were pro religion.
and Liberals tend to be more open to pot.

 

[DeletedUser22575]

like what don't retreat reload? that could mean anything. it could mean don't give up. don't let the opposition take you out. I hardly count that as evidence for what this loon did.

traditionally here in America Republicans tend to be more open to religion and listening to some of the rhetoric used by the left on this forum you would never guess that they were pro religion.
and Liberals tend to be more open to pot.

well, you said it, so lets see the statics to back it up.

and from a reputable source also please.

 

[DeletedUser]

This debate, and it's tone remind me very much of the period in the UK when Thatcher dominated, during that, and especially at heightened times such as the year long miners strikes, the country and its politics were polarised, perfectly moderate people found themselves having to choose between one extreme or the other, there being no middle ground to adopt.

The bitterness and scars left behind by that polerisation can still be found.

I hope, but also sadly doubt, that the US can find an inclusive middle ground that the whole country can rally around, because if it cannot, left and right are going to find this a long and bitter battle, and in the end, one side will ultimately and effectively find itself disenfranchised, exactly as the left did in the UK under Thatherism.

 

[DeletedUser]

well, you said it, so lets see the statics to back it up.

and from a reputable source also please.

you really should look around this forum because you seem like you haven't been around long enough

 

[DeletedUser]

you really should look around this forum because you seem like you haven't been around long enough

If that's an answer then I'm the Pope.
If you don't have a good argument then be a man about it and say it's just your own gut feeling. Don't just say you've seen a good argument somewhere and challenge the other person to find it. TJT has actually brought some mature thought and logic to this topic whether you agree with him or not.
Just saying 'go figure' is lame.

 

[DeletedUser]

just an example for the pot look into the "Legalization of marijuana" thread. im sure by now you would know who is considered "Left" and who is Considered "Right"

 

[DeletedUser22575]

just an example for the pot look into the "Legalization of marijuana" thread. im sure by now you would know who is considered "Left" and who is Considered "Right"

traditionally here in America Republicans tend to be more open to religion and listening to some of the rhetoric used by the left on this forum you would never guess that they were pro religion.
and Liberals tend to be more open to pot.

That thread proves nothing in support of this ^^^^

where is your statistics to prove that....Republicans tend to be more religious and Liberals tend to be more open to pot?

Am I just to base this on the fact that Republicans are more religious because they oppose abortion because all human life is precious and sacred, then demand capitol punishment for those who commit some crimes?

As far as the Liberals tend to be more open to pot, I think that is just your opinion.

So here is mine. I think Liberals are more open about pot. But then again Liberals are more open about a lot of things while Republicans are very good at doing them and keeping it hidden.

For example top Republicans having secret affairs and demanding Clintons head over Monica at the same time.

I was in Cali while Ronald Regan was Governor. I knew a lot of liberals who smoked pot, but I knew just as many republicans who did also..behind closed doors. I think pot is a personal choice in the end used by those on both sides, not the deciding factor if they use it being the political party they support.

Bill puffed but didn't inhale, Bush toked away.

The Republican party has changed in recent years, and I don't think you would see statistically a huge difference between pot use among young party members of any party today.

I mean...omg..the Republicans even have gays in their party now. :laugh:

 

[DeletedUser]

For example top Republicans having secret affairs and demanding Clintons head over Monica at the same time.

epic fail on your part. you really think Clinton was impeached over Lewinsky? it was for lying under oath which is a federal offence.
that is what republicans were mad at

 

[DeletedUser]

Alright guys, let's stay on topic, thanks.

 

[DeletedUser]

Fact: Three of the four US presidents who have been assassinated were Republicans.

Truth, three of the four U.S. Presidents, Republican, were assassinated when the Republican Party was liberal party (the Democratic party being the conservative party), 1900 and prior. The party's roles reversed during the first and second world wars. After both wars, guess what, it was a Democratic President's turn to take a bullet.

Anyway WmCody, your presentation of this information is a smokescreen. And as I amply demonstrated, an incorrect one. The circumstances today are quite different than 100+ years ago, and it is these times that we are dealt with extremists being encouraged by Republican vice-Presidential candidates and Republican shock jocks on Fox television. As the atmosphere has changed, so too has the rhetoric. Fueling armed revolution results in criminal behavior, it's as simple as that.

 

[DeletedUser]

Truth, three of the four U.S. Presidents, Republican, were assassinated when the Republican Party was liberal party (the Democratic party being the conservative party), 1900 and prior. The party's roles reversed during the first and second world wars. After both wars, guess what, it was a Democratic President's turn to take a bullet.

Anyway WmCody, your presentation of this information is a smokescreen. And as I amply demonstrated, an incorrect one. The circumstances today are quite different than 100+ years ago, and it is these times that we are dealt with extremists being encouraged by Republican vice-Presidential candidates and Republican shock jocks on Fox television. As the atmosphere has changed, so too has the rhetoric. Fueling armed revolution results in criminal behavior, it's as simple as that.

I have to disagree with that one as Kennedy (John) I feel had more alignment with the Modern day Republican or a blue dog Democrat.

 

[DeletedUser]

Truth, three of the four U.S. Presidents, Republican, were assassinated when the Republican Party was liberal party (the Democratic party being the conservative party), 1900 and prior. The party's roles reversed during the first and second world wars. After both wars, guess what, it was a Democratic President's turn to take a bullet.

Anyway WmCody, your presentation of this information is a smokescreen. And as I amply demonstrated, an incorrect one. The circumstances today are quite different than 100+ years ago, and it is these times that we are dealt with extremists being encouraged by Republican vice-Presidential candidates and Republican shock jocks on Fox television. As the atmosphere has changed, so too has the rhetoric. Fueling armed revolution results in criminal behavior, it's as simple as that.

They almost killed Reagan. *(Modern Republican)

 

[DeletedUser1121]

Do you think it is strange that things like are happening when people are indoctrinating their children from a very young age with political views?

Just had a quick search on amazon and found some rather disturbing stuff:
Children books written by Katharine DeBrecht for example.

 

[DeletedUser]

Do you think it is strange that things like are happening when people are indoctrinating their children from a very young age with political views?

Just had a quick search on amazon and found some rather disturbing stuff:
Children books written by Katharine DeBrecht for example.

Not quite sure where you're coming from with this Desi. Could you expound upon this?

I have to disagree with that one as Kennedy (John) I feel had more alignment with the Modern day Republican or a blue dog Democrat.

They almost killed Reagan. *(Modern Republican)

And my rebuttal is to reiterate ---

your presentation of this information is a smokescreen (a red herring). ... it is these times that we are dealt with extremists being encouraged by Republican vice-Presidential candidates and Republican shock jocks on Fox television. As the atmosphere has changed, so too has the rhetoric. Fueling armed revolution results in criminal behavior, it's as simple as that.

 

[Diggo11]

i find it a lot more shocking that rather than question gun control laws that allowed a mentally disturbed individual to legally posses a firearm, senators are discussing their need 'to pack heat' when they go back to meet the people they 'represent'.

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with, or have an opinion on, the whole of this post, it has hit a good point worth mentioning. Presently, we have no confirmed evidence of the shooters' political ideologies, but they appear don't appear to be mainstream, rather "insane" to be specific (not medically, but in popular opinion). Similarly, it is not confirmed Sarah Palin's grossly irresponsible actions induced the shooting, merely an assumed yet plausible theory.

We can, however, say it is a fact loose gun laws [in the US] are conducive to shootings of any kind. More weapons in circulation, regardless of any "restrictions", means more chance they fall into dangerous hands. Had an equivelant shooting occurred in an alternate country where semi-automatic weapons had been blanket banned for everyone bar the defence and police forces, less fatalities would have occurred, if any.

So, if you're going to generalise any blame at this point, I challenge you to make it "The American way of taking out your opposition". The patriots who hold the "second amendment" close to their hearts may not like it, but it holds an undeniable element of tru-... hold on, isn't it the Republican's who generally support present gun laws?

Truth, three of the four U.S. Presidents, Republican, were assassinated when the Republican Party was liberal party (the Democratic party being the conservative party), 1900 and prior. The party's roles reversed during the first and second world wars. After both wars, guess what, it was a Democratic President's turn to take a bullet.

Hmm, so every assassinated president has been the leader of a liberal party? So it's really "The Conservative way of taking out your opposition"?

 

[DeletedUser]

Doesn't jive, as liberal is considered center, while left-wing is considered socialist.

I know this is going back a little but he is a registered Libertarian which according to most is Center. which according to you is Liberal.so to say he is a Republican/Conservative is a fail.

 

[DeletedUser28121]

speaking as a complete outsider here (a Croatian citizen) from what i read about this shooting i assume that the shooter was a demented individual who was flamed by 'nutty Sarah's' alleged hitlist (and that is what that crap basically is, she had to understand that by putting that thing out she was simply supplying targets to those extreme individuals)...

that being said i do not understand why some of u guys are so opposed to the health-care bill ?! isn't everybody entitled to be taken care of if and once they get sick (commie propaganda lol)... but seriously, in croatia i do not have a say in this... once a get a full time job my employer will take care of my pension plan payments and my 'medicare' payments and they will be deducted from my salary (sure if in US i would earn 50K a year my monthly paycheck would be 3600, and in croatia it would be 2900 but it would cover my pension plan and my healthcare (which covers absolutely everything xcept a sex-change operation i suppose :laugh
really, i believe it is sad that such a great (size-wise so do not let it go to your head, i met enough americans to know that half the nation should be scrubbed, no offense intended) nation allows its citizens to die on the streets like dogs

PS: the weapon thingy u guys have there is ridiculous and dangerous.... get rid of that ...

PPS: if sarah palin gets elected to any kind of government function your safest bet is to squeeze those little red buttons and blow ur asses to the skies... seems like a more pleasant option..

(apologies if i'm repeating things already written here, i got to page 5 and just skimmed the rest)

 

[DeletedUser]

The US President made a very (imho) mature and dignified eulogy to the victims of this crime today. He asked that pettiness, point-scoring and politics be kept out of the debate and to focus on making a future worthy of the kids of America - one of whom was tragically killed. (A bit schmaltzy, but that's the American way).

That would dispose of about 90% of this thread, the title of which is anyway an obvious troll.
Time to lock it and throw away the key, eh?

 

[DeletedUser]

Nah, not to 10 pages yet. Besides, whilst the U.S. President made a nice speech, it doesn't dismiss the issue.

A rug, a broom, a sweeping --- does not, a problem, go away.