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I posted what they said on their website. I have reviewed most if not all of the items presented there. I was actually a member of the newsgroup at one point in time and viewed most of it before the site was ever created. The bottom line is that all events claimed to have resulted in a new species in science today took either unnatural manipulation from humans or require semantics to support the speciation event which does not jive with any of the accepted definitions of species. It is sad when you change the definition of species just to claim a new species was created and therefor your idea or concept proves something else wrong..lol If you do not like it, then find a real speciation event that fits the common definition of species.Rather than argue the facts presented in the reports and studies provided, you once again use another fallacy in trying to discredit the hosting site of three of the reports/studies I linked.
First, Talkorigins is not a site dedicated to pushing anything. It's a site providing facts and evidence and focuses heavily on providing facts/evidence directed at all the "Intelligent Design" crap being spewed out by fundamentalists.
You would have a short memory. and the reason I didn't provide any evidence is because you provided all for me. Nothing you listed or linked to provided anything other then what I have said. Go ahead and show where it does. You cannot and I doubt you have even read half of it. It all relies on semantics with a pick and choose which part of what definition of species to ignore in order to make the claims.There really is no point in bogging down this discussion with repeatedly responding to Sumdumass' continued efforts at posing fallacious arguments (rather than what he should be doing, which is to present facts and evidence in support of his posturings), I'll merely reiterate that Sumdumass hasn't presented any evidence in this thread (in fact, I can't recall him "ever" presenting evidence in "any" discussion).
And we are left with Sumdumass (and WillyPete) using excerpts from a book, of less than 775,000 words, to pose fallacious arguments in an effort to discredit tens of thousands of scientific researchers, each with at least one doctoral degree, a requisite of at least 8 years of indepth study each, constituting an absolute minimum of 80,000 years of educational mass.
Kinda silly when you put it into perspective...
In contrast you are claiming creation is wrong when you have no proof it is. I'm sorry to tell you this, but even if Speciation through evolution was real and I missed on real new species, it does not disprove any other way natural or divine. Finding a way to do something in science does not shut down any other way.
Wow.. you are really stooping so low to try and insult someone over their religious affiliation. This is the strength of your argument, so sad.Btw, you shameless pagan, you took that passage completely out of context. It was in reference to idolizing and worship of other gods, particularly in reference to the sin of such actions according to the Old Testament.
Interesting choice of words there. Blaspheme Are you saying science is your religion or is this another continuation of your attempts at personal insults?Actually, the more they (scientists) realize you (ignorant masses) don't know. At least they're bothering to get an education. You're still busy hiding behind text written by primitive sheepherders from the bronze age to bother to obtain an education and instead blaspheme the very people who devised means to save lives, created technologies to house, to transport, to feed, and discovered how to manage electricity so you can bother us with your inane ramblings via the internetz.