Futile resistance

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Let's have a quick look at the 15 highest ranked towns and their Morticians. But first things first, let's start out with a couple of questions. Then you can check the statistics and if you're impatient, I'll just finish the post with the answers.

Question (1): Which town has won most duels?

Question (2): Which town has the highest difference between wins/losses?

Question (3): Which town has knocked out most opponents?

Question (4): Which dueler in which town has the highest counting hit?

Question (5): Which town has the best dueler?

ARMADILLO

   All duels                          2177
   Duels won                          937
   Duels lost                         1240
   Difference                        -303
   Passed-out opponents               39
   Passed-out members                 155
   Highest counting hit in a duel     113 Damage (Noooodle)
   Highest counting hit received      102 Damage (Dangerous Dave Decay)
   Best dueler of the town            ra666999 (413 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              581 Damage (pocketchimp)

DODGE CITY

   All duels                          2632
   Duels won                          1287
   Duels lost                         1345
   Difference                        -58
   Passed-out opponents               57
   Passed-out members                 113
   Highest counting hit in a duel     85 Damage (rgintalas)
   Highest counting hit received      145 Damage (Cpt.Sparrow)
   Best dueler of the town            Soneca-Kid (423 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              577 Damage (divrullz)

MIDDLETON

   All duels                          1147
   Duels won                          615
   Duels lost                         532
   Difference                         83
   Passed-out opponents               18
   Passed-out members                 15
   Highest counting hit in a duel     90 Damage (HavokStar)
   Highest counting hit received      83 Damage (cheeba)
   Best dueler of the town            HavokStar (375 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              370 Damage (Bulettt)

AUSTIN

   All duels                          1582
   Duels won                          1123
   Duels lost                         459
   Difference                         664
   Passed-out opponents               32
   Passed-out members                 12
   Highest counting hit in a duel     101 Damage (kootje)
   Highest counting hit received      95 Damage (BigBadBen)
   Best dueler of the town            kramer124 (540 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              424 Damage (BigBadBen)

ATLANTIS
 
   All duels                          2211
   Duels won                          1416
   Duels lost                         795
   Difference                         621
   Passed-out opponents               70
   Passed-out members                 35
   Highest counting hit in a duel     118 Damage (Pokerinho)
   Highest counting hit received      118 Damage (Cpt.Sparrow)
   Best dueler of the town            Pokerinho (586 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              563 Damage (Miramon Lluagor)

BIG GUNCH RANCH
  
   All duels                          970
   Duels won                          559
   Duels lost                         411
   Difference                         148
   Passed-out opponents               36
   Passed-out members                 11
   Highest counting hit in a duel     109 Damage (smokingun)
   Highest counting hit received      102 Damage (Tirion)
   Best dueler of the town            Tirion (460 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              373 Damage (Tirion)

VALLE DE LA MUERTE
   
   All duels                          2630
   Duels won                          1758
   Duels lost                         872
   Difference                         886
   Passed-out opponents               242
   Passed-out members                 52
   Highest counting hit in a duel     146 Damage (Bengalo)
   Highest counting hit received      108 Damage (Vautrin)
   Best dueler of the town            Cpt.Sparrow (719 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              646 Damage (Vautrin)

ECLIPSE
    
   All duels                          2035
   Duels won                          1406
   Duels lost                         629
   Difference                         777
   Passed-out opponents               83
   Passed-out members                 10
   Highest counting hit in a duel     88 Damage (Wayne Fargo)
   Highest counting hit received      94 Damage (Surfie)
   Best dueler of the town            the way (484 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              427 Damage (flyingbear)

ALCATRASH
     
   All duels                          2711
   Duels won                          1297
   Duels lost                         1414
   Difference                         -117
   Passed-out opponents               99
   Passed-out members                 155
   Highest counting hit in a duel     108 Damage (Vautrin)
   Highest counting hit received      139 Damage (Miramon Lluagor)
   Best dueler of the town            Vautrin (646 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              719 Damage (Cpt.Sparrow)

DOMINATION

   All duels                          679
   Duels won                          488
   Duels lost                         191
   Difference                         297
   Passed-out opponents               31
   Passed-out members                 5
   Highest counting hit in a duel     115 Damage (Slaughterhouse)
   Highest counting hit received      69 Damage (ScottyBones)
   Best dueler of the town            Eich Turner (511 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              338 Damage (Roachywaah)

000 OTTOMAN EMPIRE

   All duels                          2435
   Duels won                          1294
   Duels lost                         1141
   Difference                         153
   Passed-out opponents               56
   Passed-out members                 65
   Highest counting hit in a duel     105 Damage (BigBadBen)
   Highest counting hit received      94 Damage (savavampir)
   Best dueler of the town            BigBadBen (483 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              470 Damage (kramer124)

WEST WILD WOLVES

   All duels                          2047
   Duels won                          1440
   Duels lost                         607
   Difference                         833
   Passed-out opponents               100
   Passed-out members                 26
   Highest counting hit in a duel     121 Damage (GrizzlyAdam)
   Highest counting hit received      124 Damage (Druv)
   Best dueler of the town            GrizzlyAdam (573 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              552 Damage (Druv)

NEVERNEVERLAND
 
   All duels                          2201
   Duels won                          1462
   Duels lost                         739
   Difference                         723
   Passed-out opponents               104
   Passed-out members                 12
   Highest counting hit in a duel     96 Damage (iquisitor)
   Highest counting hit received      103 Damage (Cpt.Sparrow)
   Best dueler of the town            iquisitor (384 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              434 Damage (Pokerinho)

ARMAGEDDON CITY
  
   All duels                          1021
   Duels won                          593
   Duels lost                         428
   Difference                         165
   Passed-out opponents               23
   Passed-out members                 17
   Highest counting hit in a duel     102 Damage (Tirion)
   Highest counting hit received      109 Damage (smokingun)
   Best dueler of the town            D. Saint (380 damage)
   Best dueling opponent              443 Damage (smokingun)

ANSWER (1): Valle de la Muerte (1758 wins)

ANSWER (2): Valle de la Muerte (+886 difference)

ANSWER (3): Valle de la Muerte (242 KO's)

ANSWER (4): Valle de la Muerte (146 Damage by Bengalo)

ANSWER (5): Valle de la Muerte (719 Damage by Cpt.Sparrow)

Sorry for being such a dominating force. But since the town "Domination" trademarked that name, we're going to stick with VDLM. Without zeros in the front btw. My thought is that it'll be so embarassing for all the Otto's and their 34382917 allies to be ranked first and still have red figures in their mortician so it's more fun to have then in the first place. If they ever max out, that is

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes, but you can't compete with Armadillo for getting KO'ed and negative differential...give credit where credit is due.

 

[DeletedUser]

We are right behind you Chef.

Statistics of the town Bulls-Eye
All duels 2180
Duels won 1471
Duels lost 709
Difference 762
Passed-out opponents 148
Highest counting hit in a duel 102 Damage (Dangerous Dave Decay)
Best dueler of the town pocketchimp (581 damage)

We didn't make your list because we aren't even quite in the top 30. But we'd like to thank Armadillo for our fantastic mortician stats.

 

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[DeletedUser]

We are right behind you Chef.

Indeed, Denisero. Your town is a good example of why the town ranking is completely useless as a way of measuring strength. Especially when the highest ranked town will eventually be the one with the most zeros in front of their town name.

 

[DeletedUser]

I think there should be a ranking system based on a towns mortician. Dueling ranks are fine for individual players but to truly see a towns strength a system should be put in place to rank towns.

 

[DeletedUser]

@ Denisero

Duelrankings doesnt work that great.. You could easily start a new duelist on any world thats been running a while and get into top 10 just by "farming" builders and such.

If you look at the rankings right now there is a lot of people below lvl 30 thats in the top 50 dueling. But I find it hard to beleve that any of those are able to beat some one like Cpt.Sparrow or me for instance.
Not only because we are better than everyone else but also because we have greater weponds and gear.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm not saying individual duel rankings are perfect. Far from it. A separate ranking of towns based on mortician would be more accurate and helpful I believe. We all know thats where the true strength lies, not in who has the most builders and cash. Plus it would cut out all that silly nonsense of "I can have the #1 town if I put 00000 in front of my towns name".

I think I'll go make a suggestion in the Idea and Brainfarts section about this.

 

[DeletedUser]

Rankings in general mean very little.

Rankings off the mortician would be just as pointless, in my opinion. For example, folks in my town are not permitted to attack people of the worker class, nor are they permitted to repeatedly hit the same person more than once in a day unless it's someone who's been griefing our town. We've operated under that rule since a week after the town was built.

So yes, our stats aren't great - but at least we're somewhat honorable.

Rankings based off of the mort would really push all fighting classes towards dueling nothing but workers/advens/exceptionally under leveled competition just so people could get their town's name high on the list.

 

[DeletedUser]

yup dajia speaks the truth i only hit 2 workers(wheni just joined the town and didnt know of the rule) and im still an average dueler but i need a better weapon.

ps i duel mostly on the weekends.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well it makes more sense than ranking towns alphabetically. Please read the idea I suggested in the Ideas and Brainfarts section. I didn't suggest replacing the current system, I suggested alternative ranking boards.

By the way Daija, you hit our workers and our town repeatedly during the first few days we both founded our towns. It may be your policy now not to hit workers but it wasn't always.

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes, this is true, the first week the town was up I hit whoever had decent experience because there weren't many available duelers in the center of the map yet.

I hit you twice, and another builder in your town once (possibly twice) over the course of 3 days, and you're still bitter about it lol

Your town's duelers however farmed my workers and KO'd them while not even touching our duelers long after we'd stopped touching you and your workers... just goes to support what I said about how easily skewed dueling stats can be.

 

[DeletedUser]

Daija I am not bitter about it. You came on this thread as if attacking a worker is a horrible thing to do. Obviously that was not true. for your town at one point and for you personally. I simply pointed it out. Yep, my fighters went after you and your workers in retaliation. As soon as that happened all of a sudden it was "We don't hit workers anymore so don't hit ours". As you said, xp was hard to get in the middle of the map in the early days.

I really think all the towns that don't want additional sort of ranking systems are just afraid they will be shown as weak as they truly are. Why be afraid of other ways to rank a town. Obviously the alphabetical system is highly inaccurate and even ridiculous.

 

[DeletedUser]

I kind of expected someone to eventually come up with a lame excuse as to why their mortician is showing poor figures.

1. We've been harassed by Alcatraz since day 1. The first duel on this server took place when divrullz attacked me when I was lvl 7. We've fought them and their allies off, and have raided pretty much every town in the top.

2. We're not focusing on builders, we're focusing on soldiers. Surely there are some builders who come in the way, but that has mainly been because they either give good exp or to stall an enemy town from growing faster. You may not remember it now, but the first 3 weeks Alcatraz were the no 1 town. So gutting builders has more to it than just taking a cheap shot for exp.

3. Rankings are quite accurate. Town ranking shows who has the most builders and rotating trappers/traders, duel ranking shows who's the most active exp farming duelists (not the best, but the most active). A mortician ranking wouldn't be inaccurate in any way... if a town tried to get to the top by farming workers, the other competition would eventually knock them out just to keep them down.

But I can agree that ranking isn't something that matters a whole lot, especially not early in the game. It's still a bit amusing to hold all the 5 records though

 

[DeletedUser]

But I can agree that ranking isn't something that matters a whole lot, especially not early in the game. It's still a bit amusing to hold all the 5 records though

Of course, having the best dueler(s) #5, and the highest counting hit(s) #4, will obviously skew results on the first 3 questions.

There are also very different ways to view data that would yield very different results. In a truely meaningful ranking system, factors such as time, and obstacles encountered (handicaps), would be weighed and considered. With the current system, the first place will obviously belong to the people with the best advantages. A level playing field is assumed where there is none. A meaningful system would depend on one.

 

[DeletedUser]

I don't see how you can say there is not a level playing field. No one starts out with a handicap. Your town is what you make of it with its members being the key part. It's all about the founders goals, recruiting techniques and activity of the players.

 

[DeletedUser]

Of course, having the best dueler(s) #5, and the highest counting hit(s) #4, will obviously skew results on the first 3 questions.

There are also very different ways to view data that would yield very different results. In a truely meaningful ranking system, factors such as time, and obstacles encountered (handicaps), would be weighed and considered. With the current system, the first place will obviously belong to the people with the best advantages. A level playing field is assumed where there is none. A meaningful system would depend on one.

You know what? I'll give you a quick writing lesson, free of charge, since I'm so caring and we all want things to be fair now, don't we?

All of the text you wrote up there can be summarized in two words:

MUMBO JUMBO.

1. We have no advantages. What would they be? Not being able to cue up jobs out of the risk of being gangbanged by a bunch of bullies? Having such a far distance to most of the high-ranked towns that it's a matter of at least 2 hours with the best horse in the game?

2. Obstacles encountered? Can you think of a better obstacle than getting ganked by the number 1 ranked town and their allies? Just because they're not ranked first now doesn't mean that they weren't back when it all started. In fact, we in VDLM is the main reason why they're not maxed. In fact, we in VDLM is probably the ONLY reason for that not to have happened already.

3. Which first place is it you're talking about? The number one kickass town? Well, of course we wouldn't have kicked their asses if the playing field was level. Then we would've all had 50/50 in wins and losses. But since we play this game better than they do, that's not the story here now is it.

When our enemies calls for help, we rely on ourselves. To claim that we have achieved all these listed acomplishments in an unfair manner, or due to the game giving us certain advantages over you or anyone else for that matter is a direct insult and makes it impossible for me to respect anything you say from here on.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm watching "Near Dark" right now. SC's last message came across as if Bill Paxton's character had been saying it.

My imagination, or truly the spirit behind the words?

It's curious how much of what's inside us comes out in a game.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm watching "Near Dark" right now. SC's last message came across as if Bill Paxton's character had been saying it.

My imagination, or truly the spirit behind the words?

It's curious how much of what's inside us comes out in a game.

My fangs gave me away again, didn't they? :bandit:

But surely you don't need to play this game to see the true nature of people around you? Society brings forth those lovely, inner thoughts quite well on it's own. And with your keen eyes I'm sure you do quite well, thriving on that knowledge.

 

[DeletedUser3773]

Hopefully they will implement a ranking system based on # of forts owned, that would be a more well rounded system