Fundystopia (Fundy + Dystopia)

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oisinallen said:
If you sit there gormlessly after a perfectly good argument, you may confuse those around you into thinking you belong in a padded cell.
oisinallen said:
Well it's a damn good thing my thread isn't an argument, or you might have made sense!
*raises my eyebrows*

oisinallen said:
I would like to know how you perceive my intelligently written, marvelously well-researched (and bloody witty, if I do say so myself) thread to be immature, however.
The same way I perceived JM's to be.
 

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Wait, was Oisin just called immature? Wasn't Oisin called a poopyhead earlier?
 

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Denisero said:
Wait, was Oisin just called immature? Wasn't Oisin called a poopyhead earlier?
Oisin was never called a poopyhead, and nor did I call him immature. I said the threads started by JM and him were immature.

Seriously, trying to get someone banned just because they disagree is "patently stupid."
 

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Actually, I'm the one Justin called a poopyhead, and I took it in the spirit (I think) he intended it.
 

DeletedUser

Actually, I'm the one Justin called a poopyhead, and I took it in the spirit (I think) he intended it.
Actually, you said that when your kids were growing up they would say to one another, "Everything you say is wrong because your a poopyhead." JM (not that I approve) jokingly said it back to you.
 

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I know that. It's why I said I took it in the spirit it was intended - as a joke.
 

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Seriously, trying to get someone banned just because they disagree is "patently stupid."
I think it was Justin who inserted "bans" into this conversation. Bloody propaganda, if you ask me.
"Everything you say is wrong because your a poopyhead." JM (not that I approve) jokingly said it back to you.
Oh god, he's funny(!):dry:

How is that a joke?
 

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Virginia I don't think I've ever attributed words spoken by JM as coming from you, nor do I expect you to defend JM's views or be responsible for anything he says. You may be twins in some ways, but as a mother of twins I know there are huge differences between the 2 of you. Besides, I usually just ignore JM while I do take the time to read your posts. :laugh:
 

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Virginia said:
If abortion is truly murder, then it is never acceptable - under any circumstances.
Quite logical, wouldn't you agree? I know Violette agrees.

Virginia said:
Virginia's an American and proud not to be a Canadian!
It comes from the offensive Canadian song, "American Idiot," which we in turn made "Canadian Idiot."

Virginia's location said:
The Greatest Country In the World
I do believe I recall you saying Ireland was the greatest country in the world more than once. There is nothing wrong with being fiercely patriotic.

oisinallen said:
Also, have a look at this: I had to make the following post because Virginia was offended by 'Maryland' and 'Daffyd'.
I was not offended by your nickname for me. I actually liked you better back then. ;)

oisinallen said:
And now, we will see that Virginia can't understand that a person can like more than one country:
Liking a country is far different than being loyal to it.

oisinallen said:
Wait - now murder is never allowed? I'm confused.
Do the grammar.

oisinallen said:
Hang on - you can murder criminals; you can murder innocent civilians with nukes; but you'd better not touch an embryo!
Killing is not murder in time of war.

oisinallen said:
Virginia's tantrums
Elmyr said:
In Virginia's defense, I don't agree with her positions, but she only has anything resembling a tantrum when she's goaded repeatedly.
^ I love you for that, by the way. ;)
 

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Killing a civilian is murder by definition.

"Murder" is defined by the law, period. I don't think the laws of any country call wartime killing murder under ordinary circumstances. The fact that your definition includes the word civilian is obviously making a moral judgment of your own that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual definition of the word. Murder is defined by legislators and courts, not the church, Noah Webster, Samuel Johnson, or Mystra.

Homicide, by etymology, is the killing of a man, and makes no distinction between civilian and military, but again, it's the legal definition that matters.
 
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My favorite mod said:
"Murder" is defined by the law, period. I don't think the laws of any country call wartime killing murder under ordinary circumstances. The fact that your definition includes the word civilian is obviously making a moral judgment of your own that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual definition of the word. Murder is defined by legislators and courts, not the church, Noah Webster, Samuel Johnson, or Mystra.

Homicide, by etymology, is the killing of a man, and makes no distinction between civilian and military, but again, it's the legal definition that matters.
qft
 

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"Murder" is defined by the law, period. I don't think the laws of any country call wartime killing murder under ordinary circumstances. The fact that your definition includes the word civilian is obviously making a moral judgment of your own that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual definition of the word. Murder is defined by legislators and courts, not the church, Noah Webster, Samuel Johnson, or Mystra.

Homicide, by etymology, is the killing of a man, and makes no distinction between civilian and military, but again, it's the legal definition that matters.

Killing in self defence is not murder. Killing to protect the life of another person who would die if you did not intervene is not murder. Killing by accident is not murder. Killing a civilian ie. unarmed, innocent, non-threatening human being is murder. Dropping a nuclear bomb onto thousands of civilians to show how hard you are is mass murder.
 

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There is nothing wrong with being fiercely patriotic.

Killing is not murder in time of war.

1) Uhm.... nationalzocialismus anyone?
A petty of nationalistic facism on the side perhaps?

Nothing bad ever comes from patriotism, does it....?

2) Argue semantics all you want. A life was still stolen away, and as a human being you should have a problem with that.
 

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Killing is not murder in time of war.

Just the one part I found shocking.

Laws of War
Violations and applicability
Parties are bound by the laws of war to the extent that such compliance does not interfere with achieving legitimate military goals. For example, they are obliged to make every effort to avoid damaging people and property not involved in combat, but they are not guilty of a war crime if a bomb mistakenly hits a residential area.

By the same token, combatants that use protected people or property as shields or camouflage are guilty of violations of laws of war and are responsible for damage to those that should be protected.

Source
 

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Quite logical, wouldn't you agree? I know Violette agrees.
Yes. Very logical.

If abortion is truly murder.

Which it isn't.

It comes from the offensive Canadian song, "American Idiot," which we in turn made "Canadian Idiot."
I've heard the song, and not once does it mention "I'm proud not to be a Canadian".

Also, how can you interpret a Weird Al song as "serious"?

I do believe I recall you saying Ireland was the greatest country in the world more than once. There is nothing wrong with being fiercely patriotic.
You can love your country, and that's fine.
You can say your country is the greatest in the world, and that's xenophobic.
You can say that all other countries must be destroyed, and that's nationalistic.

I was joking. You were being xenophobic. That's one step away from nationalism.

I was not offended by your nickname for me. I actually liked you better back then. ;)
I said that I didn't make up offensive nicknames for people.
Then you said: "You mean like Maryland and Daffyd?"

So clearly, you did find it offensive.

Liking a country is far different than being loyal to it.
Not to me. I would never be loyal to a country I didn't like, and I would never be disloyal to a country I did like.

And I base these opinions on government. Not xenophobia.

Do the grammar.
The grammar is where I got my statement from. I did it again, and it was still the same.

Perhaps you should do the grammar.

Killing is not murder in time of war.
Killing and murder are the same thing. War makes no difference.

And even people like you know that killing civilians is murder.
 
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