Changes to Dueler Advantages

[DeletedUser]

Hmm...going trough the quests for soldiers and duelers it see that some spescialisation of skill points trough quest already are implemented.

And the duler gets more extra skill points than the soldier. The dueler gets a total of 18 while the soldier gets a total of 14.

All the skill points given to the dueler are fixed while the soldier gets 6 of his skill points free to spend werever he likes.

The soldier has only the 4 skill points givng appearance that are totally fixed while the dueller has 15 fixed points. The fixed points sure is fixed towards duelling while the soldiers are not fixed towrads anything.

Thereby the two classes are to much alike with the soldier having a better bonus in the 50% on tactics.

I think it would have been more natural if the soldiers had been directed more towards having an edge in fort battles. We could always do this in quests but a simpler way would be to move the bonus on tactics to 50% bonus on leadership in fort battles instead. Soldiers should do better in fort battles anyway. They might get to overpowerd in fort battles though.

 

[DeletedUser]

I believe everyone tries to make things overly complicated.

The best bonuses duelers get are equipment the whole problem could be solved by adding extra aim to the dueling shoes.

1) I would recommend adding 9 Aim to the stats below (making the grand total of 16 aim)

Brown lace-up shoes
+2 Dexterity
+5 Aim (Recomendation - change this to +14 Aim)
+4 Shooting
+4 Appearance

This would make the shoes a long term quality item.

2) I agree the speed bonus should be doubled.

 

[DeletedUser]

I believe everyone tries to make things overly complicated.

The best bonuses duelers get are equipment the whole problem could be solved by adding extra aim to the dueling shoes.

1) I would recommend adding 9 Aim to the stats below (making the grand total of 16 aim)

Brown lace-up shoes
+2 Dexterity
+5 Aim (Recomendation - change this to +14 Aim)
+4 Shooting
+4 Appearance

This would make the shoes a long term quality item.

2) I agree the speed bonus should be doubled.

But this is an item, most duelers don't do quests
Changing class advantages would give instant bonus

 

[DeletedUser20647]

I believe everyone tries to make things overly complicated.

The best bonuses duelers get are equipment the whole problem could be solved by adding extra aim to the dueling shoes.

1) I would recommend adding 9 Aim to the stats below (making the grand total of 16 aim)

Brown lace-up shoes
+2 Dexterity
+5 Aim (Recomendation - change this to +14 Aim)
+4 Shooting
+4 Appearance

This would make the shoes a long term quality item.

2) I agree the speed bonus should be doubled.

That would make them a tiny bit too strong, wouldn't you agree?

 

[DeletedUser]

That would make them a tiny bit too strong, wouldn't you agree?

A Soldier gets double tactics if premium and you thing +9 Aim is too strong on one piece of equipment?

 

[DeletedUser]

A Soldier gets double tactics if premium and you thing +9 Aim is too strong on one piece of equipment?

To strong?
The fancy felt hat would be almost as good and already exist:

+1 Strength
+1 Dexterity
+9 Health points
+8 Dodging
+9 Aim
+8 Tactics

The quality of the item is not a problem here but it would have to be a higher level item if they should make it. No earlier than level 30 i think

 

[DeletedUser]

but not all duelers will get the shoes!!!!!!!!
it gotta be class advantage!!!!!

 

[DeletedUser20647]

A Soldier gets double tactics if premium and you thing +9 Aim is too strong on one piece of equipment?

Tactics is on defense only.

To strong?
The fancy felt hat would be almost as good and already exist:

+1 Strength
+1 Dexterity
+9 Health points
+8 Dodging
+9 Aim
+8 Tactics

The quality of the item is not a problem here but it would have to be a higher level item if they should make it. No earlier than level 30 i think

Everyone can get the hat. Also, as an aggresive, non-resistance dueler, those would be the best possible boots.

 

[DeletedUser]

Everyone can get the hat. Also, as an aggresive, non-resistance dueler, those would be the best possible boots.

Hmmm tie with the boots (gray, brown and black)
some dont really spend in appearance

 

[DeletedUser]

The thing i think is most unatural when comparing duelers and soldier is that the soldiers are better suited to duels than the duelers. It should be the opposite of that. The dueler can be left like it is while the 50% bonus to the soldier could be moved to a fort skil.

I suggested to move the soldier bonus to leadership but we could move it to a defensive fort battle skill. Hiding maybe.

The duellers quest kind of dead ends rather early for a dueler by the way. sawing wood is a job possible to combine with making a dueller. The next job in line on the other hand is printing the newspaper. Not to be combined with making a dueler. Most likely wont be able to do it before level 50 or something. Only 2 of the bonus skill points in the quests are distributed before that. No wonder the duellers do not keep up with the soldiers..

 

[DeletedUser]

i really like the changed advantages,

i say we make a petition and out in before the developers for the next update.

WHO'S WITH ME?

 

[DeletedUser]

Everyone can get the hat. Also, as an aggresive, non-resistance dueler, those would be the best possible boots.

I don't know why you said "everyone can get the hat". But I assume that you got them wrong.

And what about if I say Brown boots is better? Unless they adjust that Brown lace-up shoes, I will still be using Brown boots as my top priority.

 

[DeletedUser]

The OP got erased?

Edit: Eh, silly me.

 

[DeletedUser]

The thing i think is most unatural when comparing duelers and soldier is that the soldiers are better suited to duels than the duelers. It should be the opposite of that. The dueler can be left like it is while the 50% bonus to the soldier could be moved to a fort skil.

I suggested to move the soldier bonus to leadership but we could move it to a defensive fort battle skill. Hiding maybe.

The duellers quest kind of dead ends rather early for a dueler by the way. sawing wood is a job possible to combine with making a dueller. The next job in line on the other hand is printing the newspaper. Not to be combined with making a dueler. Most likely wont be able to do it before level 50 or something. Only 2 of the bonus skill points in the quests are distributed before that. No wonder the duellers do not keep up with the soldiers..

Soldiers completely own all dueling
I really agree with moving the tactics to a fort skill, because they're soldiers not duelists.

 

[Diggo11]

The OP got erased?

Edit: Eh, silly me.

Ah yes I forgot to lock this, my apologies.