tax payer funded sex change operation for inmate.

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Once again, a derailment of the discussion. In any event, assuming what I think or know is the error in your presumption. High risk convicts are indeed isolated, either en-masse' or in isolation, depending on the type of risk (predator or victim). For most U.S. correctional facilities, convicts at a high risk of being victimized are isolated together.

Now, would you like to answer the questions I posed above or still want to dodge, duck, weave, bob?

 

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no to both your questions (both are kind of the same question. because of the odd of people being bought off.

if I had enough money to pay off a doctor to say I was medically insane after I killed someone. yeah I would do it.

and if the guy was "dry" anyway why go through the operation anyway? why not just dress him like a woman and put him in the woman's prison? I will be glad to do the surgery for free. im sure a lot of other people will be thrilled to cut this guys you know whats off for free.

 

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no to both your questions (both are kind of the same question. because of the odd of people being bought off.p

Well then, in this case, where bureaucrats were overriding doctors, both your no answers firmly indicate you should be in agreement to the federal judge's ruling.

if I had enough money to pay off a doctor to say I was medically insane after I killed someone. yeah I would do it.

You don't get to pick the doctors in such a case, just as in this case (albeit different, because it was both psychiatric and medical) the convict didn't get to pick the doctors.

The last paragraph you posed doesn't dignify a response, except to point out how your bigoted sexism is showing again.

 

[DeletedUser]

why not just dress him like a woman and put him in the woman's prison? I will be glad to do the surgery for free. im sure a lot of other people will be thrilled to cut this guys you know whats off for free.

That's a bit creepy, in a Dennis-Nielson-meets-Jack-the-Ripper kind of way.

 

[DeletedUser]

That's a bit creepy, in a Dennis-Nielson-meets-Jack-the-Ripper kind of way.

come on if someone came up to you and said "make me a woman" (who killed his wife) you wouldn't cut his you know whats off. (can we say what the "you know whats" are on here)

 

[DeletedUser]

No, I wouldn't. Perhaps you should talk to someone about that...

 

[DeletedUser]

Sooo, we determined that Gandalf is not particularly fond of his mole, Gizmo wants to own a collection of "other men's" testicles, Duduie believes feeding and providing medical care to prisoners makes the U.S. a socialist State, and I'm all for government mandated sex operations for anyone who has the audacity to debate with me.

*chuckle*

Right, we need new topics to discuss.

 

[DeletedUser]

If Gizmo ever asks if you want to see his collection. say NO. just NO. I report from experience...

 

[DeletedUser]

Sooo, we determined that Gandalf is not particularly fond of his mole, Gizmo wants to own a collection of "other men's" testicles, Duduie believes feeding and providing medical care to prisoners makes the U.S. a socialist State, and I'm all for government mandated sex operations for anyone who has the audacity to debate with me.

*chuckle*

Right, we need new topics to discuss.

No. There are other things that make US seem to turn towards socialism, starting with the fact that you can be incarcerated for an undetermined period of time on a suspicion without proof (I've seen and described this before, it happened in my home country during communism), to the fact that those who pass laws do not have to be subject to them (reminds me of the pig from "Animal Farm"). What I said was that your humanitarian views border on socialism. But yet again you like to play with words (oh don't we all )

 

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To the topic in hand it's not right. Changing gender is not a necessity no matter what any transgender person says. The hormone treatments shouldn't have even been given to them. If you are in prison and have committed a crime you should receive nothing but the absolute basics which means medical treatment to sustain health, a place to sleep, clothes, food and a toilet. That is all.

There shouldn't be any way to get any sort of non vital surgery. In fact half the things they give out in prisons should be banned. You should not be entitled to an education, cigarettes, books, television, internet, basketball courts or gyms.

All you require is a room, healthcare and around an hour to two hours exercise a day. Even if that is just jogging around a dingy square. I'm fed up of paying taxes for criminals to live a pretty cushty life behind bars. Make prison a punishment again and see the re offending rate drop.

 

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No. There are other things that make US seem to turn towards socialism, starting with the fact that you can be incarcerated for an undetermined period of time on a suspicion without proof

Socialism is an economic system. You seem to be muddling it with a totally unrelated legal one.

 

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Source Wikipedia:

A socialist state (or socialist republic) generally refers to any state that is constitutionally dedicated to the construction of a socialist society. It is closely related to the political strategy of "state socialism", a set of ideologies that believe a socialist economy can be established through government policies.

Everything is related.

 

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Changing gender is not a necessity no matter what any transgender person says.

Did you mean no matter what the transgender person says or what the doctors say? As has been pointed out, the decision of necessity is done by professional medical personnel and no one else.

In fact half the things they give out in prisons should be banned. You should not be entitled to an education, cigarettes, books, television, internet, basketball courts or gyms.

Are you aware that your wish list there would not only punish the person during their time in prison but ultimately cripple them mentally and physically so that they never will be able to find a place in society again?
Who would employ them? Their chances aren't that great in the first place with having spent some time in prison. Then no further education: certainly isn't a plus. And not even mental activity during that time with books or at least TV? Human brains get slow without stimulation.
There have been several experiments with isolation and its consequences, feel free to look them up.
Without a job, where should they live? And again, who'd want to have a convicted criminal living close?

So do you really believe such persons would not turn back to crime because prison was harsh and a hard punishment?
Sorry, but that's BS. If you want people to learn from their time in prison, you've got to give them the opportunity to leave their prior life behind and denying them a post-prison life certainly isn't the way to go.
Also you seem to underestimate the effects of being in a prison regardless of all those "goodies" prisoners receive. Not being able to get out is in fact a punishment. A very harsh one, that no amount of books, TVs and internet can compensate. Sure, some teenage kids might find it normal not leaving their rooms, hanging out in front of a computer all day and only getting out to get some food, but usually humans need to get out once in a while and have social contacts and use their brains (and I don't mean solving riddles or math equations)

Socialism is an economic system. You seem to be muddling it with a totally unrelated legal one.

Socialism is a political system, according to Marx the dictatorship of the proletariat. The economic system in socialism generally (or ideally) is command economy.

 

[DeletedUser17143]

Are you aware that your wish list there would not only punish the person during their time in prison but ultimately cripple them mentally and physically so that they never will be able to find a place in society again?
Who would employ them? Their chances aren't that great in the first place with having spent some time in prison. Then no further education: certainly isn't a plus. And not even mental activity during that time with books or at least TV? Human brains get slow without stimulation.
There have been several experiments with isolation and its consequences, feel free to look them up.
Without a job, where should they live? And again, who'd want to have a convicted criminal living close?

So do you really believe such persons would not turn back to crime because prison was harsh and a hard punishment?
Sorry, but that's BS. If you want people to learn from their time in prison, you've got to give them the opportunity to leave their prior life behind and denying them a post-prison life certainly isn't the way to go.
Also you seem to underestimate the effects of being in a prison regardless of all those "goodies" prisoners receive. Not being able to get out is in fact a punishment. A very harsh one, that no amount of books, TVs and internet can compensate. Sure, some teenage kids might find it normal not leaving their rooms, hanging out in front of a computer all day and only getting out to get some food, but usually humans need to get out once in a while and have social contacts and use their brains (and I don't mean solving riddles or math equations)

Actually I speak from experience. My dad actually spent more time in Prison than he did at home because everyt ime he came out and lived with us where we had little money he would commit a crime and go back to jail when it became too hard living outside because he had to work to pay for food and bills. He and many others use prison as a tool. Many inmates are happier in prison because all levels of responsibility are taken away from them. Prison should be a punishment not a place for people to learn and watch television. It should be a deep dark hole where people go to either die or pay there dues for the crimes they have committed. I'm not suggesting that prison terms remain the same. Many crimes would only consitute a few months. But that few months would be the most horrible gut wrenching experience of ones life. It's what criminals deserve. And trust me I grew up amongst criminals Prison is a laughing stock. There is so much legislation and human rights policies that the hardest bit of prison is just being away from ones family. And for a lot of the scumbags in there even that isn't a problem. No one is scared of the law system anymore and it is wrong. I don't propose death sentences but I think there should be harsher prison sentences so that people will learn that you can't just commit crimes because the law basically gives you a swanky hotel and a telling off. Because believe me, it's not working at all.

 

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This is such a waste of money. We do it here Canada but I couldn't even imagine it in Mass. USA