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The parents should just ban them all from playing this game. There was way too much non-supervision going on. Parents should disconnect the internet when they are unable to supervise their children on it. There are way too many dangers on the web just to let them roam free on the internet.
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Actually HS, Victor was awarded sleeping privileges on that bench by Camden Local Authority for winning their "Streetsweeper of the Year" award for the fourth year running, and therefore Dumass's appropriation did constitute theft.
When footballers reflect on a recent narrow defeat, they frequently say "we was robbed" when what they mean to say is "we lost de facto control of the game". This proves beyond any dispute that the terms are synonymous.
When footballers reflect on a recent narrow defeat, they frequently say "we was robbed" when what they mean to say is "we lost de facto control of the game". This proves beyond any dispute that the terms are synonymous.
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Hehe, so you're saying the opposing football team is guilty of theft/robbery and can thus be imprisoned for the criminal act of narrowly winning a game.
DeletedUser30834
Are you guys trying to be silly and joking? Or do you still don't get it?
Oh well, I'm not bothering any more. It's laid out pretty clear in the article, simple internet searches give a lot more information, de facto control is a common legal term and should be well understood by now. If you seriously still don't get it, then you will be crying unfair again when it happens next as if you are the only one right in the world and all the judicial systems of all the rest of the world is somehow wrong or you will be the one it happens to.
Oh well, I'm not bothering any more. It's laid out pretty clear in the article, simple internet searches give a lot more information, de facto control is a common legal term and should be well understood by now. If you seriously still don't get it, then you will be crying unfair again when it happens next as if you are the only one right in the world and all the judicial systems of all the rest of the world is somehow wrong or you will be the one it happens to.
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No matter if it was legal or not its still a load of dung. Just because something is legally correct does not make it right. No item was actually stolen as the item does not actually exist and even if it did it would belong to the company who makes the game and never lost control of the "item."
If a thief falls though a skylight he can legally sue the owner for getting hurt on his property and win. This is completely bogus but its completely legal also.
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Sense of humour failure!
@WillyPete - if you have decent insurance, please post your address here - some of us could do with the money.
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DeletedUser16008
Must be studying for the bar or something... I hear they extract the humour during year 1
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Aww, poow Summy got his widdo feewings huwt after getting pwned...
DeletedUser30834
ha.. no one pawn'd me. I know I was right, the entire case specifically spells it out.
I just realized that it was pointless to explain the same stuff over and over again when some can't wrap their minds around it or are intentionally trolling for responses. This stuff is settled legal theory in many countries and has existed in practice for centuries and the virtual or non-existent nature of the items stolen is nothing new either.
I just realized that it was pointless to explain the same stuff over and over again when some can't wrap their minds around it or are intentionally trolling for responses. This stuff is settled legal theory in many countries and has existed in practice for centuries and the virtual or non-existent nature of the items stolen is nothing new either.
DeletedUser
Hmm, you want me to point out specifically at which point you got pwned?
DeletedUser30834
You can try, but i think like in your many other attempts, all you will succeed in doing is making yourself look silly.
DeletedUser
lol, what attempts? Anyway, you were already pwned and either you don't see it or you're acting.
DeletedUser30834
Hey, just because I had a brief career in the porn industry doesn't mean I'm an actor.
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I don't care whether you steal from someone on a game or steal from them in real life. In my opinion, stealing is wrong, no matter what you steal or how you steal it. If I was the judge, those bratty kids would be permanently banned from RuneScape and the boy they stole from would have his items returned to him at no cost to him. Also, the trolls who stole from the boy would be in jail for at least a few months. Maybe longer...
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lol, so stealing is wrong when you steal from them ingame?!? Jail time even?!? You see, this is what's at the core of the idiotic argument.
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at the risk of getting my head chopped off....i might as well get in my two bit
stealing at the end of the day is stealing. it shows your character and your background in life & even goes to reflect your upbringing.
somewhere either in this thread or another thread, a person had written that he would employ a felon but not a thief. even if nothing else, this sentence just goes to highlight a persons character & once a thief even if it was ingame, will resort to the same tactics in real life as well.
my opinion....this verdict was righteous & the courts should hand out more of these verdicts. the thieves (if ingame, then likely to be in real life as well) deserve to be punished. the community service sentence will probably deter them from stealing in real life once they are adults and are capable of deciphering the outcome of a jail sentence. or else right now too if they have been 'naughty' as juveniles (which i think that must have been) and this can be supported from the fact that they did resort to real life violence as well.
the only flipside to this is that....usually a person is deterred by a fear of the unknown, but once a person experiences the unknown (like going to jail etc) then he gets bolder about it (ready to face jail again), hence making the next time inevitable. but this is more true for the 'hardcore' or the 'repeater' variety of people.
anyways....'once a thief always a thief' is my opinion. exceptions will always be there and there will be a reason for that exception. else the quotes apply and nobody should get off unpunished for any kind of theft whatsoever.
a rape is a rape even if its marital and a husband cannot claim that its not rape since the woman is his wife. or child abuse is child abuse and a person cannot claim that its fine if the child is his own....similarly, stealing is stealing and a person should not be able to claim that its just virtual and not real.
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i'll avoid responding to anything that is directed at me....the above is my opinion and i would not like to get into any debates about it. feel free to use the above as a means for a healthy debate amongst yourselves without involving me in it
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stealing at the end of the day is stealing. it shows your character and your background in life & even goes to reflect your upbringing.
somewhere either in this thread or another thread, a person had written that he would employ a felon but not a thief. even if nothing else, this sentence just goes to highlight a persons character & once a thief even if it was ingame, will resort to the same tactics in real life as well.
my opinion....this verdict was righteous & the courts should hand out more of these verdicts. the thieves (if ingame, then likely to be in real life as well) deserve to be punished. the community service sentence will probably deter them from stealing in real life once they are adults and are capable of deciphering the outcome of a jail sentence. or else right now too if they have been 'naughty' as juveniles (which i think that must have been) and this can be supported from the fact that they did resort to real life violence as well.
the only flipside to this is that....usually a person is deterred by a fear of the unknown, but once a person experiences the unknown (like going to jail etc) then he gets bolder about it (ready to face jail again), hence making the next time inevitable. but this is more true for the 'hardcore' or the 'repeater' variety of people.
anyways....'once a thief always a thief' is my opinion. exceptions will always be there and there will be a reason for that exception. else the quotes apply and nobody should get off unpunished for any kind of theft whatsoever.
a rape is a rape even if its marital and a husband cannot claim that its not rape since the woman is his wife. or child abuse is child abuse and a person cannot claim that its fine if the child is his own....similarly, stealing is stealing and a person should not be able to claim that its just virtual and not real.
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i'll avoid responding to anything that is directed at me....the above is my opinion and i would not like to get into any debates about it. feel free to use the above as a means for a healthy debate amongst yourselves without involving me in it
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lol, you're comparing this to rape and child abuse!?! Ridiculous.
Let us all now travel the route of slippery slope fallacy and false comparisons. Hashisfun, you wrote five paragraphs of fallacious reasoning (false/flawed logic). At the center of your fallacy is a critical bit of information you, and the courts, were not privy to. Theft only occurs when something is stolen... stealing entails ownership, a change in ownership. Ownership never changed hands, because the game company owns it all (as indicated in their terms of service). What occurred was assault with a deadly weapon, but no theft.
Review my earlier post for visual clarification --- http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=620289&postcount=75
Let us all now travel the route of slippery slope fallacy and false comparisons. Hashisfun, you wrote five paragraphs of fallacious reasoning (false/flawed logic). At the center of your fallacy is a critical bit of information you, and the courts, were not privy to. Theft only occurs when something is stolen... stealing entails ownership, a change in ownership. Ownership never changed hands, because the game company owns it all (as indicated in their terms of service). What occurred was assault with a deadly weapon, but no theft.
Review my earlier post for visual clarification --- http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=620289&postcount=75
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