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And yet we've shown you quotes from the Bible, showing why Christianity is not a peaceful religion.
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And yet we've shown you quotes from the Bible, showing why Christianity is not a peaceful religion.
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youve shown old testiment quotes that no chrsitan follows
and youve shown unrelated qoutes out of context
and when some wackjob CLAIMING to be a christan does something extreeme the christian comunity comes out publicly to agisnts them and there actions much like with the koran burning crackpot churches everywhere and christans everywhere came out against him
yet when a muslim terrorist kills a ton of people in teh name of islam not a peep
when a mulsim father honor kills his teenage daughter for dating a non mulsim white guy ? nothing
when a woman is stoned to death for being raped ? nothing
when a woman is repeatedly raped by her husband ? nothing
so theres a LOT of diffences that are clear as day to see that run counter to the claim of being a peacefull religion
now this is not to say that all muslims are like this but the fact that they wont publicly denouce the actions of this nature makes it hard to beleive that its peaceful
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It isn't the religion that does it, it's people. All of the examples you used are said to be done in the Bible. If Christians followed their religion faithfully, they'd do those things too. Those things were socially acceptable when the Bible was written, but aren't in most places today. If they are still accepted in some places, it doesn't mean they're more evil than we are; it more likely means their society is just in a different stage of development.
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Spider, your lines of crap are just that, crap. In one statement you say those things you posted were merely to demonstrate how "some" people believe Islam is not a peaceful religion and thus it was taken out of context because you don't hold to those same opnions, and yet in this latest post you clearly demonstrate you're one of those "some" people. Stop trying to be evasive. Take ownership for your stance.
1. Do you believe the Muslim religion is a violent religion?
2. Do you believe Christianity is a violent religion?
3. Do you believe Hinduism is a violent religion?
4. Do you believe Judaism is a violent religion?
5. Do you believe Atheism is a violent mindset?
Step up and answer those questions.
1. Do you believe the Muslim religion is a violent religion?
2. Do you believe Christianity is a violent religion?
3. Do you believe Hinduism is a violent religion?
4. Do you believe Judaism is a violent religion?
5. Do you believe Atheism is a violent mindset?
Step up and answer those questions.
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accualy the new testiment of hte bible specificaly states that because of hte new covenint the old testiment is no longer the rule but since you know only enuff about christianity to make false attacks you wouldnt know that
i beleive islam unlike christanity doesnt break from its older outdated texts and gives those that would use terror a weapon jusitifaction for there actions
does this mean that islam is inherently violent its debateable
but to break the mindset the moderate population of islam needs to take ownership and publicly denouce there violent counterparts untill this happens there will still be a large population that feels its violent
hindu i know not nearly enuff about
judism again i defer to someone who knows it more intimately
and athiest isnt violent but many athiests have proven themselfs to be closed minded and disrespectful of others views
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Oh really?
Where exactly does it say that, great one?
Believe what you will, but all you did there was to demonstrate your ignorance.
At the very least you could do a quick search on Islam before typing out some random crap from a pisition of gross ignorance.
Does the OT mean that Christianity is inherently vioelent?
Or Judaism for that matter?
People use religion as a tool all the time.
Some religions are easier to use than others due to the history of these religions.
Uhm... moderate muslims have denounced terrorism and violence time and time again.
One could flip the coin and say: Until Catholic Leaders take a stand and denounce the raping of children many people will feel they are a bunch of child-rapists.
Boo-friggin-hoo.
Tolerance, it's a two-way street.
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Yeah, Jesus came along and replaced the Ten Commandments, and with him the Old Testament became worthless.
Oh wait...
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Some wrongly assume that all Old Testament laws are obsolete unless repeated in the New Testament. The New Testament is a record of members living by the terms of the new covenant. But nowhere does the Bible say all new covenant laws are recorded in the New Testament. Rather, the laws of the new covenant are written in the minds and hearts of God's people.
The new covenant renders the old covenant obsolete. The old covenant is not the same as the Ten Commandments. A covenant is an agreement; commandments are laws or terms of the agreement. The Ten Commandments are the words [terms, Jewish Publication Society translation] of the covenant not the covenant itself (Exodus 34:27-28). The covenant or agreement became obsolete, not the laws within it.
The word "obsolete" (Greek: palaioo) means "things worn out by time and use" (Vine's Dictionary of Biblical Words). Hebrews 10:9-18 shows Christ's sacrifice made animal sacrifices obsolete. But the old covenant was not suddenly discarded or forbidden in the New Testament Church. It simply faded into disuse as people became aware of the superiority of the new covenant and came under it. But the law of God will never become obsolete (Matthew 5:18)."
Some wrongly assume that all Old Testament laws are obsolete unless repeated in the New Testament. The New Testament is a record of members living by the terms of the new covenant. But nowhere does the Bible say all new covenant laws are recorded in the New Testament. Rather, the laws of the new covenant are written in the minds and hearts of God's people.
The new covenant renders the old covenant obsolete. The old covenant is not the same as the Ten Commandments. A covenant is an agreement; commandments are laws or terms of the agreement. The Ten Commandments are the words [terms, Jewish Publication Society translation] of the covenant not the covenant itself (Exodus 34:27-28). The covenant or agreement became obsolete, not the laws within it.
The word "obsolete" (Greek: palaioo) means "things worn out by time and use" (Vine's Dictionary of Biblical Words). Hebrews 10:9-18 shows Christ's sacrifice made animal sacrifices obsolete. But the old covenant was not suddenly discarded or forbidden in the New Testament Church. It simply faded into disuse as people became aware of the superiority of the new covenant and came under it. But the law of God will never become obsolete (Matthew 5:18)."
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sooo you mean like the man building ht ground 0 mosque who wont even acknoledge that hamas is a terrorist orginazation ?
and FYI chatholic leaders DO Stand firmly agianst the incidents that have occured the pope the officail leader of the chatholic church has publicaly spoken out agianst it multiple times and so did the previous pope etc
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Yeah, let's not try to take that out of context there buddy ---
Matthew 5:17-20 said:
This particular section, regarding the fulfillment of Old Testament laws, makes it clear in the New Testament that the Old Testament's laws should still be honored and obeyed (inclusive of polygamy, killing your wife, having slaves, etc). But, more important to your arguments, is that part about not abolishing the prophets, who in fact presented the covenants you claim are abolished.
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the laws od the old testiment are the ten commandments slavery and such as u mention were the laws of the LAND at the time not the laws of god
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Which part of, "But, more important to your arguments, is that part about not abolishing the prophets, who in fact presented the covenants you claim are abolished" didn't you understand? Those laws were imposed by the prophets, and it clearly indicates, in the new testament, not to change one letter of the laws, be they the laws of the commandments or the laws of the prophets.
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slavery and such were not the laws of the prophests
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Would you like me to quote a particular commandment that indicates slaves are not to work on the Sabbath?
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you mean a quote that states even slaves should follow gods laws ?
its not a law oking slavery slavery was a part of the law of the land in those days it was perfecty legal and it wasnt just one race inslaving another if someone owed money they couldnt pay they would become a slave till they could pay it back
soooo the quotes your refering to are accualy stating that slaves should be treated like normal people
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Gulp Gulp Gulp.....
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Once at a time I just posted this thread to see what you people think. But I did not know that you go this much deep of a topic.
Okay.. I m learning a lot... keep going.....
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Once at a time I just posted this thread to see what you people think. But I did not know that you go this much deep of a topic.
Okay.. I m learning a lot... keep going.....
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