W3 Wyatt Earp's Colt Buntline

DeletedUser

UPDATE: He didn't find anything.

Howdy Folks,

Does anyone know RckyMtnHigh

we'd really like to see his battle report for a fort battle in W3
Unfortunately, he has not responded to any telegrams.

He's playing Worlds 1-4, so if you know him, please ask him to share the report


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DeletedUser

How about telling us how hard was it to arrange the push fort battle? You don't have to, it was easy. But the good thing is that RMH spoiled it, I'm taking him to a beer, dinner, whatever.
And how much money did you bring? Nah, you don't have to tell that, we already know.

But how about getting some comments from you all who abused the fort fight rewarding system in this thread:
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=37114
 

DeletedUser

JoxerTM said:
How about telling us how hard was it to arrange the push fort battle? You don't have to, it was easy.
And how much money did you bring? Nah, you don't have to tell that, we already know.

But how about getting some comments from you all who abused the fort fight rewarding system in this thread:
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=37114
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Seriously dude, stop talking about "abuse". The devs made the system this way, and apparently it's supposed to work like this, so don't go blame players for doing things that are perfectly legal in this game.
 

DeletedUser

bever, I will not. Unless you're a developer and are speaking for themselves. Pushduels are illegal, push fortbattles are legal? Yea, right.
 

DeletedUser21816

Well right in both the storylines from "the 3rd key" it is mentioned

Redmanphill said:
Story told by Eiswiesel:
“Once upon a time there was a bandit named Jack and his accomplices, who planned to rob a bank. With loaded guns they stormed the bank and looted the vault. Nobody in the bank defended it. Each one of the bandits filled its bag full with dollar bills and left for their hideout. On their way back they heard gunshots in the distance and they followed the sound. The bandits found two groups of men fighting each other in a wild gunfight. As the bandits had not yet shot a single round this day they decided to help the loosing group and started to shoot wildly. But they underestimated the enemy. As Jack shot the last enemy he realized, that he was the sole survivor of the battle. All his accomplices were shot dead. Jack took the loot of his friends and returned home. In the hideout he realized with great dismay that only his bag still had dollars inside. But in one of the bags he found an old key with three embedded rings.”

This story holds few hints on the third key but also some false tracks.

Comment by Ashock on the hint in the Casino questline:

The hint given in the casino questline is strongly related to the story told by Eiswiesel. Whoever finds the similarities of both texts will be much closer to the solution of the riddle..

The ghost town (Clothes make the man)
After you have gambled away a few dollars, you meet a gorgeous woman who tells you a little story once you buy her a drink. It's a story about a chest with three locks. Each of these locks needs a particular and very rare key. Even she doesn't know where this treasure is supposed to be, but she once saw one of the keys - shown to her by a member of the Confederate Army, who was traveling to his base...
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So according to this you're suppose to do it this way. So stop complaining and move on if you don't like it. It's not like every fort battle will be forged anyway.
 
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DeletedUser16806

JoxerTM said:
bever, I will not. Unless you're a developer and are speaking for themselves. Pushduels are illegal, push fortbattles are legal? Yea, right.
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At the moment, yeah, they are legal. Given the controversy you don't think that one of the devs/mods would have stepped up to say something if they weren't?


nashy19 said:
Why didn't you kill him?
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He joined the defense, given 4 defenders to 3 offense. myusername was actually offline for the battle so rcky just hid behind him most of the battle.
 

DeletedUser

JoxerTM said:
bever, I will not. Unless you're a developer and are speaking for themselves. Pushduels are illegal, push fortbattles are legal? Yea, right.
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Push duels influence the rankings directly and give guaranteed XP, plus they're insanely easy to "organise".

"Push" fort battles don't influence the rankings and require lots of coordination and organization, they cost huge amounts of money, and they don't guarantee anything at all.

There's a big difference in my opinion... :indian:
 

DeletedUser

beverbeverbever said:
Seriously dude, stop talking about "abuse". The devs made the system this way, and apparently it's supposed to work like this, so don't go blame players for doing things that are perfectly legal in this game.
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Legal for now. Push dueling was legal too once upon a time you know.:)
It is because of so much posting in the forum devs were finally kind enough to ban it. I am not saying push fort fights are that bad.TBH I find it quite amazing the way devs got owned.But stop treating OP like a local hero.because he is NOT.
 

DeletedUser

Jesse James said:
Legal for now. Push dueling was legal too once upon a time you know.:)
It is because of so much posting in the forum devs were finally kind enough to ban it. I am not saying push fort fights are that bad.TBH I find it quite amazing the way devs got owned.But stop treating OP like a local hero.because he is NOT.
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As DSG said, it's not forbidden everywhere; the devs have nothing to do with that, it's just the CM of some language versions that added it to the rules.

I don't get it why you think someone here is treating myusername as a hero - and certainly not if you're talking about me. He's just a very lucky player; and I wish him all the best.
 

DeletedUser

Push duels are different from "push battles", as you call them. In a duel there can only be 2, right? At least for now.
In a battle the number of players who can join is way bigger. You can't control who joins the party and who doesn't, unless the battle is maxed out.
I see the trend is to have a big fort battle and I don't think they will be maxed out in order to kick the random ones out.
So a there will never be a push battle, because anybody can join. In the world I play I know there are a lot of "regulars" who go to most fort battles (invited or not). They can change the course of an arranged battle, not to mention enemies.
If there are such perfect organized battles where nobody else joins but the ones invited, then is the world's fault. If the world is to inactive, then let the few active ones have fun and organize themselves.
 

DeletedUser

JoxerTM, can you please not drag my thread offtopic?
This is obviously how the devs intended the fort battle system to work.
As everyone has told you in both threads, the devs have been dropping hints so we can figure it out.

More importantly:
Anyone who knows RckyMtnHigh on W1 or W2, please help!
 

DeletedUser

He said he did not find anything and most probably the cussing stopped him from replying. He did not know is an arranged battle and frankly the fact that one crashed the party made the battle fair.
 

DeletedUser10707

That fact that a single player crashed a fort fight indicates your world is dead. As such, I don't see how this is pushing... because I don't recognize this as game anymore. No strategy is needed.... just some secret cheats and inside information. In the world I play, this could not be done because fights are always contested.
 
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DeletedUser23701

Duduie said:
Push duels are different from "push battles", as you call them.
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What is 'push battle' from admin point of view?

As I see it:
If you come to agreed battle, with lot of cash with aim to die and loose cash, so others can get some valuable item, by definition should be push battle.
Same with duels - if you start/defend duel with aim to loose.

Doesn't matter, that many others can join.


If all come to agreed battle with lot of cash and have fair fight to find out the winner (like gambling), then it should be good and fair fight with some lucky persons.


Admins should have possibility to check battle/duel logs to define, is it push or not.
 

DeletedUser

I didn't ask an admin or dev to know what is their point of view in this. I only explained mine. I only play in world 2, so I can't speak for other worlds. In world 2 I can't organize a perfect arranged battle. There are the battle regulars and enemies who would crash my party. Of course I would hate to come to a battle with $10k and die and help latigo get wyatt earp's buntline, but it would be my fault for bringing the money and not my intention. In a push duel I can chose who gets my money, in a battle I can't. This is the difference between them. Also, in battles there is no guarantee that anybody will get a drop. As you read already, RckyMtnHigh was one of the 3 survivors and didn't find anything. Is all about luck. While in duels you get 1/3 of the money, in a battle you might or might not find something. The money people bring only increase the value of the items people might find.
 

DeletedUser23701

Maybe you're right, if there is luck between - no push.

That's why admins have to review battle log. You can simple jump one by one on tower or get to flag, so the defenders or attackers can shoot you one by one with low risk.

I mean that you can do all to loose, or you can fight like you normally do, with or without cash in pockets.
 
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