Feedback Shorts events

*Melody* said:
Ok, the 10million suggestion approved (at least this way more ppl ll have the chance to get more lucky and find ff sets) so lets continue the feedback...
Another suggestions:
1) there is no reason for 5k jobs restriction
- if lucky ppl want to spam all day 15secs to try their luck even more for lvl2-3 sets/upgrades, let them
- this way you give more chances to the ppl who were unlucky
ppl on Shorts can confirm that luck is a BIG factor the way this shorts was designed. There were ppl from 1st day that had lvl1 Krampus and farm crazy $ and came to ff with even lvl1 ff sets and there were ppl that found like 5-6 Bat Masterson or other useless sets, so they just wasted 1k jobs literally for nothing and the worst part is that they did absolutelly nothing wrong, they were just unlucky

how you solve this ?

*Suggestion for next similar event: just give ALL the players all ff sets x1 and dont allow trades between them, so everyone is equally to the other (no upgrades)

2) You need somehow to balance the FF battles, what I mean is that we were asking all time how much ppl were on attack and how much on defence in order to balance it somehow as we could

but there is also another problem now, some ppl founded their towns as you suggest: so whats the problem now ?
If I have marked lets say attack side and the general sees that I am higher on FF rank than him he can let me out of the battle :D

how you solve this ?

*Suggestion for next similar event: 2 admin generals, so simple...1 for attack and 1 for defence, so there is no need for ppl to build their own towns

3) Add a restriction about sides, dont let ppl select only attack or only defence the whole event...

4) If you want more ppl to participate in such events, you have to add participation rewards...like 100bonds,x1 vip medal, x1 stew rice or smth like that it would be fine I think

Thoughts: If you see what ppl selected as their character for this event, you gonna cry...the stats probably are smth like that and talk for themselves I think:
40% workers
40% duelers
15% adventurers
5% soldiers

I think you have to rethink something about how the ff ranking is working...
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The restriction is a good idea, but you'd rather use your dobby? Or worse, actual players doing 15 sec jobs for 16-20 hours straight for 5 days?

Please don't encourage unhealthy game habits. Its nice to see that we don't have to worry about someone else who might be cheating, or worse isn't cheating but doesn't care about themselves.

I am glad syntex have made this rule. It makes it fairer to casual players, since they can enjoy the game rather than sweat in order to compete, I am quite enjoying it while having time for real life.
 
@Syntex The free 10million brought a lot of new registrations making small forts fill up very easily, currently the small fort 1 is almost full on both sides and the battle is at 3 hours so you can expect even more players. Especially today that everyone got 10million and FF sets, you will have many issues of players missing the battle. I think its safe to say that the rule should be changed to medium-large again.
 
I wanna give my 50 cents about this short event. In theory sounds good, but it has 2 major problems. First one is luck. Ok, we get 10 mills to play with them, huge bonuses and broad selection of sets to choose from. But like in other similar events, all came down to luck. Are you lucky enough to first get x set, so you can earn cash for y set, those who are lucky will have lvl1,lvl2,lvl3 sets etc... My proposal is simple and FAIR for all players. From the start all players should find all chests with all sets in inventory. No rebuy, no shops, no upgrades, no chasing money, no trades, no market.. Everyone get the same equipment at the same time, no luck involved. No clicking for hours, just pure FF! That would be FAIR and EQUAL for all. And 2nd major problem is rewarding system. This event will give prices to first 9 players in FF ranking. So that rewards are basically GRANTED for duelers/workers with damage build. Formula used for calculating FF ranking, greatly favors damagers, and those damagers wont have that without HP tanks to shot at. Advetnts and soldiers, considering their FF bonuses, are highly handicapped. If you find one soldier or adventurer in top 30 at the end of this event, that would be miracle. So, to make things more fair in that department, i think rewards should be spread equally to all classes, for example top 5 duelers get a reward, top 5 advents and so on..
 
zvrndo said:
I wanna give my 50 cents about this short event. In theory sounds good, but it has 2 major problems. First one is luck. Ok, we get 10 mills to play with them, huge bonuses and broad selection of sets to choose from. But like in other similar events, all came down to luck. Are you lucky enough to first get x set, so you can earn cash for y set, those who are lucky will have lvl1,lvl2,lvl3 sets etc... My proposal is simple and FAIR for all players. From the start all players should find all chests with all sets in inventory. No rebuy, no shops, no upgrades, no chasing money, no trades, no market.. Everyone get the same equipment at the same time, no luck involved. No clicking for hours, just pure FF! That would be FAIR and EQUAL for all. And 2nd major problem is rewarding system. This event will give prices to first 9 players in FF ranking. So that rewards are basically GRANTED for duelers/workers with damage build. Formula used for calculating FF ranking, greatly favors damagers, and those damagers wont have that without HP tanks to shot at. Advetnts and soldiers, considering their FF bonuses, are highly handicapped. If you find one soldier or adventurer in top 30 at the end of this event, that would be miracle. So, to make things more fair in that department, i think rewards should be spread equally to all classes, for example top 5 duelers get a reward, top 5 advents and so on..
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For this type of shorts yeah... this should be the case :D , because luck is involved. even for 1 month speeds, luck is involved, but at least you have the time to get the sets you want.
 
zvrndo said:
I wanna give my 50 cents about this short event. In theory sounds good, but it has 2 major problems. First one is luck. Ok, we get 10 mills to play with them, huge bonuses and broad selection of sets to choose from. But like in other similar events, all came down to luck. Are you lucky enough to first get x set, so you can earn cash for y set, those who are lucky will have lvl1,lvl2,lvl3 sets etc... My proposal is simple and FAIR for all players. From the start all players should find all chests with all sets in inventory. No rebuy, no shops, no upgrades, no chasing money, no trades, no market.. Everyone get the same equipment at the same time, no luck involved. No clicking for hours, just pure FF! That would be FAIR and EQUAL for all. And 2nd major problem is rewarding system. This event will give prices to first 9 players in FF ranking. So that rewards are basically GRANTED for duelers/workers with damage build. Formula used for calculating FF ranking, greatly favors damagers, and those damagers wont have that without HP tanks to shot at. Advetnts and soldiers, considering their FF bonuses, are highly handicapped. If you find one soldier or adventurer in top 30 at the end of this event, that would be miracle. So, to make things more fair in that department, i think rewards should be spread equally to all classes, for example top 5 duelers get a reward, top 5 advents and so on..
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I second to this suggestion. Would be better if same number of winners will be picked from each character class from next event
 
For a future event that will be similar.

@Syntex Damagers benefit a lot from the current formula, making tanks literally unplayable because they have absolutely no chances of getting top places. So I'm suggesting for the next time to have 2 different rank rewards. Top9 damagers + Top9 dodges. You can also make special rewards for Most damage and Most dodges. The event was nice but couldve been way better. Luck was a big factor overall, 10kk shouldve been given from the start of the event.
 
Syntex said:
We have in mind to create a new set for winners, but we have no estimated date for that.

I can suggest to rebalance the gringo bonuses. Let us know what if you have any ideas.
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Having won the gringo weapons I can now see their strengths and weaknesses. It is really disappointing that weapons given as prizes from such competitions are equal to the old leavenworth ones on an individual level. My suggestion:

1) cancel the entire health bonus of the weapon set so that the set is suitable for both tanks and duelers
2) increase the defense bonus from +7 to +12.
Consider that the corresponding premium weapons for health give +14 defense.
Right now when you wear the gringo weapons set it is like sacrificing your good weapons to give a bonus to the team which in the end is not much bigger than the bonus given by the mykolai set.
3) increase the attack bonus of the weapons from +7 to +9
4) upgrade the bonuses of all items to the numbers suggested by melody . The hat for example is completely useless after the new birthday set was introduced.

I believe the solution is to upgrade the existing set. It is something special and unique and should remain that way.By releasing a new set equivalent to the gringo, it's like canceling the efforts of players who have won competitions through hard work or luck.
 
xHazard said:
Having won the gringo weapons I can now see their strengths and weaknesses. It is really disappointing that weapons given as prizes from such competitions are equal to the old leavenworth ones on an individual level. My suggestion:

1) cancel the entire health bonus of the weapon set so that the set is suitable for both tanks and duelers
2) increase the defense bonus from +7 to +12.
Consider that the corresponding premium weapons for health give +14 defense.
Right now when you wear the gringo weapons set it is like sacrificing your good weapons to give a bonus to the team which in the end is not much bigger than the bonus given by the mykolai set.
3) increase the attack bonus of the weapons from +7 to +9
4) upgrade the bonuses of all items to the numbers suggested by melody . The hat for example is completely useless after the new birthday set was introduced.

I believe the solution is to upgrade the existing set. It is something special and unique and should remain that way.By releasing a new set equivalent to the gringo, it's like canceling the efforts
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to make it more understandable

BUFF for tanks:
- increase dodge chance from +7 to +12

BUFF for duelers:
- increase hit chance from +7 to +9
- delete all health points
 
xHazard said:
Having won the gringo weapons I can now see their strengths and weaknesses. It is really disappointing that weapons given as prizes from such competitions are equal to the old leavenworth ones on an individual level. My suggestion:

1) cancel the entire health bonus of the weapon set so that the set is suitable for both tanks and duelers
2) increase the defense bonus from +7 to +12.
Consider that the corresponding premium weapons for health give +14 defense.
Right now when you wear the gringo weapons set it is like sacrificing your good weapons to give a bonus to the team which in the end is not much bigger than the bonus given by the mykolai set.
3) increase the attack bonus of the weapons from +7 to +9
4) upgrade the bonuses of all items to the numbers suggested by melody . The hat for example is completely useless after the new birthday set was introduced.

I believe the solution is to upgrade the existing set. It is something special and unique and should remain that way.By releasing a new set equivalent to the gringo, it's like canceling the efforts of players who have won competitions through hard work or luck.
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yeah totally make a weapon that isn't too bad for ff, even more insane, while there are more issues with the game. Just to satisfy the few who has that rifle.

Meanwhile, outlaw rifle which was introduced before this, has gone an upgrade route of 1 time. It was disastrous but they recouped it.

So to satisfy your highness, they would rather update gringo weapon set/cloth set, just to update it, to satisfy the true rulers of this game. Meanwhile, ignore all issues of the game, and the added issues of other balances, just to satisfy these egoistic selfish....
 
asdf124 said:
yeah totally make a weapon that isn't too bad for ff, even more insane, while there are more issues with the game. Just to satisfy the few who has that rifle.

Meanwhile, outlaw rifle which was introduced before this, has gone an upgrade route of 1 time. It was disastrous but they recouped it.

So to satisfy your highness, they would rather update gringo weapon set/cloth set, just to update it, to satisfy the true rulers of this game. Meanwhile, ignore all issues of the game, and the added issues of other balances, just to satisfy these egoistic selfish....
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your arguments? don't you think the gringo's set is outdated?
 
xHazard said:
your arguments? don't you think the gringo's set is outdated?
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No I don't, specially when cheats have gotten it, or its a good reason for corruption. Updating it would reward said corruption, and simply encourage the death of the game.

One day most of the game will be few players and their multis, it should be happening in certain servers, and it'll happen on other servers too.
 
asdf124 said:
No I don't, specially when cheats have gotten it, or its a good reason for corruption. Updating it would reward said corruption, and simply encourage the death of the game.

One day most of the game will be few players and their multis, it should be happening in certain servers, and it'll happen on other servers too.
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I dont get what you mean by corruption. This is an item that is only obtained from specific contests with a lot of participating competition. It is an item that rewards a hard working player and is not available for purchase with nuggets. How do "cheats" get it? By playing hard and outcompeting people in contests? It s totally against your corruption principle since the only way to get is to be better in a completely even field where premium is not relevant and only skills and strategy matter. I believe it needs a buff so that the hardworking player can compete against a hard spending player.

Also your post about the issues of the game is irrelevant this was a buff for specific set post and not a "the game has issues" one. xHazard suggested a buff he didnt mention that this was the only problem of the game...
 
skal900 said:
I dont get what you mean by corruption. This is an item that is only obtained from specific contests with a lot of participating competition. It is an item that rewards a hard working player and is not available for purchase with nuggets. How do "cheats" get it? By playing hard and outcompeting people in contests? It s totally against your corruption principle since the only way to get is to be better in a completely even field where premium is not relevant and only skills and strategy matter. I believe it needs a buff so that the hardworking player can compete against a hard spending player.

Also your post about the issues of the game is irrelevant this was a buff for specific set post and not a "the game has issues" one. xHazard suggested a buff he didnt mention that this was the only problem of the game...
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Everyone knows that the item was obtained in competitions where EXP was main target and was obtained with autoclickers. Maybe in the very recent past they tried to stop and minimized the ones who cheat but a lot of Gringo's where obtained this way. The other "cheating"/not fair way is the item was given to mods as a Christmas gift. So there are a lot of Gringo's that weren't obtained through fair competitions. I would say that probably less than 30% of them.
Introducing a new set will create a new item that will be given during competitions and hopefully obtained in more fair ways, especially as you have seen from most recent competitions it's required to sleep during events and other limits just so cheaters cant get so ahead of normal players.
 
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