Well this is the third edit of your response to me and you seemed to have changed tack each time. But let's deal with this one...
Oh? And who gives you the right to judge my life so mercilessly? Are you perfect? I didn't think so.
I shall point out once again that I have not judged you according to
my values. I have judged you in accordance with
your own. I did not do that to tell you that you are a horrible person (for starters, I don't share those values, anyway) but merely to illustrate that your reasoning is faulty and that your values and judgments appear to be applied selectively.
The only things I have debated are abortion, homosexuality, war, equalities of genders, and the origin of man. I would never say to a woman who has had an abortion: "Murderer." I would never say to a homosexual: "Sodomite."
Actually, you have
repeatedly called women who have abortions murderers just you have also stated that the only reason these unknown women have abortions is because they are selfish. So are you retracting those statements here? Or are you simply saying that you are happy to judge and slander unknown people, but would not do it to their face? Again, this is incoherent.
(IIRC, it is only JM who as stated that homosexuals should be executed, so I have no opinion of your views on that topic.)
Who are you to tell me that just because my bf was an athiest I am no longer good enough?
I did not make any such statement. I repeat: I simply pointed out that that behaviour was not in accordance with
your own stated values. (ie; that the bible is exact in it's moral judgements and instructions). You expect others who have no such view to follow those instructions, and have advocated enforcing those instructions by law, yet you do not follow them yourself.
Personally, I have no problem with you dating a Buddhist nun if that is who you want to date, but being so forgiving of yourself and in fact flaunting a "sin" (as you would define it) as proof of your goodness while at the same time being so harsh in blaming others requires self-deception and is indicative of attribution bias.
Furthermore, what right do you have to impose your morals on society? Not everyone is going to agree with Violette's morals. Therefore, according to your faulty argument, everything should be legal.
And once again... My post only referred to
your morals, not my own, and you brought those into this discussion yourself.
As for "Violette's morals", you can have very little idea of what they are because they have never been particularly relevant to these discussions. And I have certainly never suggested "everything should be legal", so that is simply your way of throwing a red herring at me because you are feeling defensive.
As for what right I have to impose my moral values on others, I have none. But I have not sought to do such a thing. The fact that I object very strongly to you attempting to impose yours, however, gives you a pretty clear indication of what
one of my morals is. And that is that
nobody is qualified to claim absolute truth when it comes to values.
I could be wrong about that, of course, but you have yet to make an argument that suggests I am.
Moreover, I don't need your approval and nor do I want it, thank you very much.
While you are unable to recognise this, my previous post was not intended to insult you in any way. I have only dispassionate opinions about your ideas and the arguments you use to support those ideas. I am also perfectly happy for you to believe whatever you want: Your private thoughts and behaviour are of no concern to me.
However, when people make claims of absolute truth about both science and morality, I expect them to be able to back them up. And I expect them to be able to handle their ideas being questioned without behaving as though their entire personality is being threatened. If they cannot do those things, it is quite obvious that their knowledge and their understanding could use improvement, just as it is obvious that they had no right to claim absolute truth in the first place.
As I suggested earlier, if you have strong opinions and you like to discuss them, you should learn something about argumentation and logical fallacies. And I see that Hellstromm has said the same thing. The last time I made that suggestion, however, you went postal.
You really had no need to because it is not an insult. Everyone has to learn (or, at least,
should learn) how to formulate valid opinions and arguments. I'm not telling you to change what you think. I'm just saying you have a lot of room for improvement in the "whys" of what you think.
As insults and offensiveness goes, this is the equivalent of a friend saying to you, "Yes, your butt does look big in those jeans." I don't know about you but, personally, those are the friends I value the most.
