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lol, now i'm just being mean-spirited again. Let's return to a more direct, if not more civil tone.
Virginia. It's interesting how you take on the role of being offended, yet are completely oblivious as to just how offensive some of the things JM and you posted in regards to 'non-christians,' the shotgun comments about scientific studies, and anyone who doesn't just bend over and take the cross in the cheeks.
As to your inability to locate the insults presented by Justin: I can only surmise he already edited them out, you didn't look sufficiently, or you saw it but decided, since it was directed at a non-believer, it's okay.
As to my reference on claims: you cited JM, who cited others making claims, and both of you used those statements as your arguments. Therefore, they are, de-facto, your and JM's claims.
Returning to the name calling and criticisms on beliefs, relgious options, etc, there's an immense amount of hypocrisy going on in the non-denominational and denominational christian communities. Along with name-calling, a gross disrespect of others' beliefs (Islam and Judiasm, for example), and a general dismissal of the very sciences that brought you the internet, vaccines, modern transportation, air conditioning, earthquake-resistent buildings, printing press, modern-day printers, spermicidal condoms, tupperware, stainless steel, the iPod, your computer, phones, wireless, satellites, etc and so on.
So excuse me not --- for showing little hesitance when it comes to closing the book on Bible-thumping arrogance.
And excuse me for not tolerating your groupology. Each poster here had something different to say, but you have the audacity to bunch us all into a single, convenient package, and cry foul. I will not explain, nor apologize, for the actions of others and have had very little to apologize for on my own right. Had there been arguments presented, by JM and whomever else, in a more civil tone, in a knowledgeable and sincere manner, I may very well never have entered into this discussion, and definitely would not have entered into it with such blunt force.
But, as it was, I entered into this discussion in the manner I did (and likely in the manner others did), because I recognized that a firm and responsible presentation of argument was needed in order to quash the ignorance beget before us. And what has become of it? While this may not be a win/lose debate, acting all hurt and bothered denotes a sense of loss. An interesting turn of behavior from before, I very much say.
So, stand hurt, stand proud, but don't stand in the way of reason. This discussion, without further contra-debate on the subject matter, is effectively over and those who feel they may have lost, can pout off stage. Good day.
Virginia. It's interesting how you take on the role of being offended, yet are completely oblivious as to just how offensive some of the things JM and you posted in regards to 'non-christians,' the shotgun comments about scientific studies, and anyone who doesn't just bend over and take the cross in the cheeks.
As to your inability to locate the insults presented by Justin: I can only surmise he already edited them out, you didn't look sufficiently, or you saw it but decided, since it was directed at a non-believer, it's okay.
As to my reference on claims: you cited JM, who cited others making claims, and both of you used those statements as your arguments. Therefore, they are, de-facto, your and JM's claims.
Returning to the name calling and criticisms on beliefs, relgious options, etc, there's an immense amount of hypocrisy going on in the non-denominational and denominational christian communities. Along with name-calling, a gross disrespect of others' beliefs (Islam and Judiasm, for example), and a general dismissal of the very sciences that brought you the internet, vaccines, modern transportation, air conditioning, earthquake-resistent buildings, printing press, modern-day printers, spermicidal condoms, tupperware, stainless steel, the iPod, your computer, phones, wireless, satellites, etc and so on.
So excuse me not --- for showing little hesitance when it comes to closing the book on Bible-thumping arrogance.
And excuse me for not tolerating your groupology. Each poster here had something different to say, but you have the audacity to bunch us all into a single, convenient package, and cry foul. I will not explain, nor apologize, for the actions of others and have had very little to apologize for on my own right. Had there been arguments presented, by JM and whomever else, in a more civil tone, in a knowledgeable and sincere manner, I may very well never have entered into this discussion, and definitely would not have entered into it with such blunt force.
But, as it was, I entered into this discussion in the manner I did (and likely in the manner others did), because I recognized that a firm and responsible presentation of argument was needed in order to quash the ignorance beget before us. And what has become of it? While this may not be a win/lose debate, acting all hurt and bothered denotes a sense of loss. An interesting turn of behavior from before, I very much say.
So, stand hurt, stand proud, but don't stand in the way of reason. This discussion, without further contra-debate on the subject matter, is effectively over and those who feel they may have lost, can pout off stage. Good day.
