Oktoberfest 2020 - Feedback

asdf124

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A bug?! No no, this is not a bug. This is product manager, developer, and QA staff not paying attention to detail. A company too focused on quantity instead of quality, and not using the beta world as a true testing world. A company too focused on creating "events" instead of listening to feedback.
Their isn't any quality control in that department for this game.... Any other product would have a quality assurance of a degree. Remind me, why is beta like this and who's idea was it to make it have about over 3x the nuggets?
 

DeletedUser35277

ok, thanks guys, my oversight was I collected over 5k so I mistakenly thought that was the bounty. My bad!
 

RaiderTr

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They got rid of QA department of this game at some point (that's not later than about 5 years ago I reckon) and Beta players were doing it "for free"

But then Inno stopped giving a damn about Beta feedback too (apart from Quest/Event "bugs") so Beta basically became a "perma more nuggets per money" thing and that's about it

Otherwise, at the very least, there wouldn't be such thing as absurdly OP Union Officer madness in the first place.
 

asdf124

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ok, thanks guys, my oversight was I collected over 5k so I mistakenly thought that was the bounty. My bad!
7 duel experience and gets $ 1,807. asdf124 receives a bounty of $1,255.

Well, just bounty someone you want to get via a duel. Thats the easiest way to get a wanted person.
 

Barnstable

Active Member
Absolute farce. First time I've kept a record of drops although always been pissed off at the amount of rubbish.

Already on SIX steel boxes and seven other useless chests/boxes/safe all of which have given worthless junk.

You need to check the authenticity of your drop rates!
 

lulumcnoob

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I don't actually doubt the validity of their drop-rates, this is just how RNG works.
I've spend nearly 1k nuggets that I had lying around and was never really gonna use due to lack of relevant content in the game, got 2 parts of the fort set so far, but at least my fishing trips this years will be well equipped.
I'll be real, I feel like a complete idiot, I should have just spend the 1k nuggets on Scotland Belts to upgrade.

I do low-key appreciate how hard it is to complete the damager set, but honestly we've had more than enough of this absolute mess of a gambling minigame every couple of months, let us buy what we actually want - the gaming industry is moving away from toxic paid Loot-Box models and it's considered heresy to lock character progression behind a Loot-Box, as we are doing, we should follow the example of companies who have the slightest idea of what they are doing.
Alternatively bring back Classic and just start again from before gambling became the main character progression arc, when the game was good?
 
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asdf124

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I don't actually doubt the validity of their drop-rates, this is just how RNG works.
I've spend nearly 1k nuggets that I had lying around and was never really gonna use due to lack of relevant content in the game, got 2 parts of the fort set so far, but at least my fishing trips this years will be well equipped.
I'll be real, I feel like a complete idiot, I should have just spend the 1k nuggets on Scotland Belts to upgrade.

I do low-key appreciate how hard it is to complete the damager set, but honestly we've had more than enough of this absolute mess of a gambling minigame every couple of months, let us buy what we actually want - the gaming industry is moving away from toxic paid Loot-Box models and it's considered heresy to lock character progression behind a Loot-Box, as we are doing, we should follow the example of companies who have the slightest idea of what they are doing.
Alternatively bring back Classic and just start again from before gambling became the main character progression arc, when the game was good?
I just noticed, there are no Arabian country belt in the the shop :D Nor any African country belt :O

I think they should rather address that than add new events/tambolas. I also remember a certain player who actually sent a ticket over getting the same item again and again. He also told the support that it wouldn't be possible if it was random to get the same item 3 times or more in a row. Eventually he was correct and got a free spin or was it a refund(of nuggets or ingame currency). I can't actually remember.
 

NovaStar

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Sounds to me like a bunch of you guys need to get together and crowdfund for your own development of your own game since all you do is spend time coming up with fixes for absolutely EVERY aspect of THIS game. If it's sooo very broken, I think you should develop your own "already fixed" game from the beginning and get feed back from players on THAT one...see how that shoe feels on the other foot...
 

RaiderTr

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Lmao that's very genius of you indeed.

If they let, there would already be "Private" servers and all years ago.

Otherwise I'm sure you are aware that Copyright claims would be the end of us right?

And I suppose you are totally very happy with the game?
Or perhaps you ain't even noticing the issues, which wouldn't be something new for you.
 

NovaStar

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You can only consider a western game? I didn't even suggest it had to be only that...

#1 I didn't refer to YOU, personally
#2 I don't know anyone totally very happy with EVERYthing in this game, but so many guys are UNhappy with EVERYthing in this game...just offering a thought...
 

Pankreas PorFavor

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Sounds to me like a bunch of you guys need to get together and crowdfund for your own development of your own game since all you do is spend time coming up with fixes for absolutely EVERY aspect of THIS game. If it's sooo very broken, I think you should develop your own "already fixed" game from the beginning and get feed back from players on THAT one...see how that shoe feels on the other foot...

most of us are unhappy because the game with millions of players, huge activity and lots of fun turned into ... this.
we're not complaining because the game is not developing how we would like, we're complaining because something that was already great is now reduced to almost nothing. you now have less people in the whole world than we previously had in one sector - and that was when the map had 40 sectors, not 15 like today.
you can go all the way back to 2012 or 2013 and read negative comments about game changes from the same players - 8 years of feedback that did not get taken into account. I ask you, who was right? people who caused the reduction of players from 40-50 000 per world to maybe 500-1000 by making bad decisions, or people who said that these decisions are wrong? you find the game that is today, like it and stay or don't like it and leave. but a lot of us found it 10-12 years ago, fell in love with it and had huge amounts of fun, we know it has the potential to be (close to) what it was before. the meaning of these posts is not "I/we can do it better", the meaning is "Innogames, we know you can do it better, you already did!"
 

NovaStar

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most of us are unhappy because the game with millions of players, huge activity and lots of fun turned into ... this.
we're not complaining because the game is not developing how we would like, we're complaining because something that was already great is now reduced to almost nothing. you now have less people in the whole world than we previously had in one sector - and that was when the map had 40 sectors, not 15 like today.
you can go all the way back to 2012 or 2013 and read negative comments about game changes from the same players - 8 years of feedback that did not get taken into account. I ask you, who was right? people who caused the reduction of players from 40-50 000 per world to maybe 500-1000 by making bad decisions, or people who said that these decisions are wrong? you find the game that is today, like it and stay or don't like it and leave. but a lot of us found it 10-12 years ago, fell in love with it and had huge amounts of fun, we know it has the potential to be (close to) what it was before. the meaning of these posts is not "I/we can do it better", the meaning is "Innogames, we know you can do it better, you already did!"

I'm one of those that found this game 10-12 years ago, myself...but you said what I was saying...the same people giving "feedback" for 8 years? why? :D Like you said, you are happy and stay or you're not and leave...spend 8 years giving "feedback" (on EVERY aspect of the game, they may's well re-write the whole thing to their liking)...lol.
 

lulumcnoob

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I'm one of those that found this game 10-12 years ago, myself...but you said what I was saying...the same people giving "feedback" for 8 years? why? :D Like you said, you are happy and stay or you're not and leave...spend 8 years giving "feedback" (on EVERY aspect of the game, they may's well re-write the whole thing to their liking)...lol.
All I can say to this is echoing what Panky said, I love this game and I want to spend my money on it - and if you've been around for that long, you know fine well what's happened to it and why the long-time fans of the game on these forums generally find the current circumstances completely unacceptable.
I don't simply leave because of hope and potential - the potential to re-find what this game used to be in the past - my favourite game of all time.
I don't exactly "play", unless you consider walking from fort battle to fort battle, just waiting for positive changes as "playing". I do this small thing because I don't want fort battles to completely die on .net.
No one has ever asked for a complete re-write, only tweaks to make the game closer to the multi-award winning browser game of the year of the past and less like a bloody casino simulation.

Until they delete my account, I'll do anything I can to push us back in a positive direction (which is basically just writing on forums and hoping kuro passes it on for it to be ignored by higher-ups), and I make no apologies of you're tired of hearing it - tombola fans and the-west fans can co-exist on these forums.
 
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NovaStar

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I'm all for positive feedback and find some of them rather interesting (even agree with a lot of them), but when its the same people that are sometimes complaining more than offering constructive feedback or suggestions, I'm sure that those complaints are falling on deaf ears...

I also reiterate, that once it becomes a "tweak" on each and every single aspect of the game, at that point, I think some of the changes or updates that have taken place, just have to be accepted (or you can keep offering constructive feedback and suggestions),
 

lulumcnoob

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I'm all for positive feedback and find some of them rather interesting (even agree with a lot of them), but when its the same people that are sometimes complaining more than offering constructive feedback or suggestions, I'm sure that those complaints are falling on deaf ears...
Positive feedback is equally ignored though, but I agree with the sentiment and I think someone calling out pure negative feedback is a valuable asset to the community.
 

RaiderTr

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Lol as if none of us made any "positive" feedback topics on multiple forums (Beta & Event i.e) or on facebook page which, ironically, seems to be the most active official media of theirs.
 

Pankreas PorFavor

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I'm one of those that found this game 10-12 years ago, myself...but you said what I was saying...the same people giving "feedback" for 8 years? why? :D Like you said, you are happy and stay or you're not and leave...spend 8 years giving "feedback" (on EVERY aspect of the game, they may's well re-write the whole thing to their liking)...lol.


what do you mean "why"? like lulu said - falling in love with the game that's now your favorite game of all time - you want to improve it. and when you see the decline (look at the number of players), you react. and react again and again. sure, a lot of people gave up and left. but some of us did not. eventually we probably will, but for now we still feel that there is some hope. what I said about staying and leaving is for new players. for us oldies, a lot of us were happy for years, and are staying even when unhappy because of all that unfulfilled potential that we know is there, because of the community but also an occasional fun and entertaining activity in the game.

are there really players that are complaining about "EVERY aspect of the game" non-stop for 8 years? I think you're exaggerating. and calling it "feedback" implies that it's not constructive, that it's not with positive intention. I disagree. but maybe I misunderstood what you meant. in any case, I really don't see what's wrong if someone is a customer, uses a product and gives their opinion on it. if the game went from 10k to 1 million players, I too would say that ignoring these opinions is the right way to go. but the game went in the opposite direction, so laughing at that feedback is something I can't really understand. remember the banner on the login page mentioning 17 million players worldwide? imagine ruining that to the level of 650 players in a world, where maybe 50% is actually active. terrible!

I could also exaggerate and ask if you think that "EVERY aspect of the game" is perfect as is and needs no improvement? I know you don't think so. but really, are you satisfied with the game today? if you are, that's great. but at the same time, are you saying that implementing the player's feedback would damage the game you like?! if yes, I'd love to hear how. if no - then why laugh at it?
 
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