Submitted Minor Ideas #14

Status
Not open for further replies.

DeletedUser

Minor Ideas #14

These ideas are from the minor ideas thread. We won't be voting on these ideas, as that would be to time-consuming. If you have any last minute suggestions &/or criticisms here is the place to comment. Please note these are just the ideas as they were submitted. You still have a chance to say yes or no. If there is no opposition to these ideas after one week then they shall be presented to the developers like any other idea (unless there are any comments stating why they shouldn't).

Please note some of the posts were modified to include comments that were posted. I also re-formatted &/or re-worded posts to meet posting guidelines. Comments are welcome - please refer to the post number when commenting.

#1)
Proposal
make a Duel ranking not only for XP but also for won, lost, difference.

Current Workaround
At the moment if you want to find out who has the most duel wins you have to go round asking other people.

Details
at the moment this is what we have:
duelrankingsystem.png


I propose that XP, won, lost and diff columns be made so that they can be sorted.
Just like the duel tab when you sort by level, time etc...
thus creating a ranking in all of these areas rather than just one (XP).

Abuse Prevention
There is no loophole

Visual Aids
same as in details, except with the column titles clickable, maybe a mouse arrow on one of them?
:D

Summary
As we all know 0% duelling is an alternative way of duelling, its not better nor worse than xp duelling.
Yet the only info you can get is regarding the latter. there is no info on 0% duelling.

Administration
Does this idea meet the Ideas Guidelines & Criteria? Yes
Does this idea appear on any of the Previously Suggested Ideas List? not exactly.


#2)
Idea title: Show time on bounties
Details of idea: Show how long someone has been on the bounty list in the little hovering pop-up (mouseover). Can also sort bounties based on time. New achievements are possible, for example: staying on the list for a week, taking someone down within an hour, most assassination attempts in a day, etc.
Reasons for submitting: Interesting to see how quick hotshots die and how long the pros can stay alive. Also, it'll make things feel more like a race, especially among bounty hunters.

#3)
Idea title:Make changing alliance name available to hats.
Details of idea: The only way to change the name of the Alliance is to completely disband and create a new alliance and re invite everyone.
needless to say that this is a ridiculous amount of work for such a minor thing.
imagine you have managed to spell the name of the alliance wrong and you cannot rectify it???!!
(I wonder what noob manages to spell the name of their alliance wrong??! LMAO :D)
Visual Aid:none.
Reasons for submitting: enhances gameplay, very logical, i dont understand why the name cannot be changed already!


#4)
Idea title:
Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance.

Details of idea:
A checkbox near the "Submit" button like: "Do not copy me on this telegram."

Reasons for submitting: Why?

Is it really necessary to receive a notice for each telegram we send.... saying "You have received a new telegram. 'DEFEND Dis Fort!' "..?

For one... no... I didn't receive it... I sent it!

Two... Someone replies to your bulk telegram to the whole alliance... and chat is completely obliterated with multiple copies of the message " You have received a new telegram. 'DEFEND Dis Fort!' " Any discussions you were having are lost.

Three... It would probably help spare some server resources...

Four... It wouldn't clutter up your mailbox.


#5) Not enough demand at this time - may be reconsidered at a later date.
Idea title: Sorting of reports

Details of idea: Some people, like me do several different jobs, sometimes from these jobs we get finds in certain time periods, we examine the reports to see if there is any recurring pattern in finding a particular product (like uncut rubies) from a job - not just time, but the number of times we have to do to get it

so, it would help, if it were possible to sort reports according to the job done, jobs in which products and items were found and so on. This feature could be extended to duels with the reports being orgainzed in terms of attacks on the same player and town

Reasons for submitting:

Will help people examine their job reports in more detail, will also help duelers check reports of their attacks on particular towns and players and look for ways to improve their duels


#6) Not enough demand at this time - may be reconsidered at a later date.
Idea title: World chat
Details of idea: Create a world chat that you can join
Visual Aid: none, /enter and /leave are already implemented both cli- and gui-wise.
Reasons for submitting: It seems to me that many worlds are not that populated or active, this would allow the active players to hang out regardless of current town/alliance/county. This would really enhance game-play for me as the major reason for me to play this game is hanging out with people. What would be great is either some sort of dynamic resizing of the chat-rooms so that they grow and shrink by number of active players in the world/sectors or just open up a room that you are not automatically connected to but that you have to actively /enter.


/Edlit


#7)
Idea title: Put items on the market from afar.
Details of idea: Players should be able to to put market items for sale from afar for a nugget price. (A premium feature)
Visual Aid: N/A
Reasons for submitting: Sometimes when you have like 3 or more assignments (duels/jobs) queued and someone asks you to put an item on the market you have to cancel the jobs and go to town = annyoing at least for me. There is the market deliver system why not have something like this? (I'm no premium player but this could be nice for premium players) :)

#8)
In the market place under the tab 'Bids for purchase' I would like the option to be able to sort the lists by preference so that I could arrange the pickup of vast amounts of products by travel time.

Also another column could be inserted to show what the item is as suppose to having to scroll over the icon on the far right to see what it is, this could also be arranged in order to ee exactly how many of each product you have bought and ready to be picked up.

Since crafting was introduced my market page has become hideously unorganised, this would help so much :)

#9)
Idea title: Center Mini-map Option
Details of idea: Add an option to center the mini-map on yourself, so instead of showing one county, it shows your county and the 3 nearest counties with yourself at the center. Alternatively, remove the centering icon and automatically center the mini-map on yourself or the area that you have selected.
Visual Aid: I'm not sure I'm happy with the position of the centering icon (in the upper left corner), but I couldn't see any good place to put it. On the "after" pic, I probably should have made the borders a little more pronounced.

gKrrD.png

Before Centering

O6QR8.png

After Centering

Reasons for submitting: I would have killed for this when I was a member of Bulls-Eye in w6, a town which was located in the very center of the map, and it was before forts, so town was base. Every day you'd have to check up to four sectors to find the closest job, unless you remembered where it was located.

It's still a hassle to find the closest location for a job when you're around the corner of a county. Being able to center the mini-map on yourself would let you see ALL of the closest jobs, not just the closest in the currently selected county.


#10) Not enough demand at this time - may be reconsidered at a later date.
Suggestion of cleaning up the job lists a bit:

Why is Beaver hunting not like all other hunting jobs Hunting beaver?
Same thing for hunt puma, hunt rattlesnakes, pick blueberries, pick Indigo and all the mining jobs.
Why not have it simpler where you have subcategories in the "main" job appliance like Hunting > Beaver of Mining > Iron etc...
Here's a list of things i found could use a subcategory, if anyone thinks of other, be my guest.

Hunting > | Picking > | Mining > | Harvesting > | Construct/Build >
Beaver|Agaves|Coal|Fields|Bridge|MoTTo Town|NL4|727411| link
Buffalo|Beans|Granite|Potatoes|casino|MoTTo Town|NL4|651042| link
Coyote|Berries|Iron|Pumpkins|Irrigation system|MoTTo Town|NL4|50| link
Grizzly bear|Blueberries|Lead||Manor-house|
Puma|Corn|Saltpeter||Mission|- Inferno -|RO2|31876|?
Rattlesnakes|Cotton|Silver||Railroad station|- Inferno -|RO2|31876|?
Turkey|Indigo|Sulfer||Range house|- Inferno -|RO2|13944|?
|Sugar cane|||Windmills|- Inferno -|RO2|13944|?
|Tobacco||||- Inferno -|RO2|13944|?
|Tomatoes||||- Inferno -|RO2|13944|?


#11) Poker will be changed with the next update (1.32) - holding this idea till after the update.
Hello i would like to see some improvements on the poker client so it get a bit more user friendly.

1. Make it clear at the username what action they did, fold, call or rais. And how much they raised.
2. No autoscroll chat, it is really hard to check hand history when it keep scrolling. autoscroll On/off maybe?
3. A little sound when it is your turn, and you should be able to turn off sound if you want.
4. Town and alliancen tournaments, cash and maybe Item price.
5. Give the buttons memory, if i clicked Fold/check then the button should remember that when it is my turn.

Just some simple improvements that i think would make the poker client much better.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

DeletedUser

1. Absolutely yes, we want to know who's zeromot so we can organize a posse and by current ranking we see only who isn't.

2. Not needed IMO, I really don't think many players would bother with it. But since it can't hurt to have it, add it please.

3. Another yes as this is essential (dunno if this is already added to the new update so someone on beta please check it up).

4. The workaround option(s) are added in the new update. You may empty any telegram section by one click and in the chat window you may disable notices about telegram. So no.

5. I really don't see a purpose of this one. Sorting dueling reports to see/check attacks on a player/town... Um... But you have only your report, not reports from your whole town/alliance! Ah you mean reports when you were attacked by several players... But what's to be sorted there? Another part of the idea is "to see products found"... Again I don't see a purpose of it as the only interesting reports are ones where you find something that you can't buy in a town shop (or upcoming fort shop). On this one I say a big, fat, no.

6. I'll bless this one just partially. World chat - yes. But it lacks of the most important thing: remove the county chat and replace it with the world chat. So if county chat stays, I say no. World spammers? C'mon, there is a chat ignore option, just add the mosquitos on it.

7. No on this one. Instead I'd say enable putting things on the market only if a player sleeps in a town. What gives? Townless players would be discouraged to stay townless.

8. This is probably the worst idea ever I've seen in this forum section and it's aimed against traveltime halving and instant delivery premiums. Play a greenhorn or premium dueler with mexican/indian set if you want to be quick on the map without traveltime halving or instant delivery. Double no.

9. Yes to this, as it gets annoying to check 4 sectors if you're looking for a closest certain job in a town near to a corner of a sector. Also it'd be nice for nondueler duelists who have to duel players on the spot and not from a distance.

10. Awsome! I want this one, definetly! Digging a well should perhaps also go into construction but I won't be nitpicking.

11. The poker is still being worked on and is being tested on beta as we speak. I suggest leaving this idea out temporarily till we see what's already added in the next update. Tournaments won't be added in the next update, so perhaps this idea part should be submitted now. It'd be a nice thing to have.
 

DeletedUser

1. Oh YES!
2. Well,not needed...NO!
3. Hell Yeah!Or else i'll have to leave the alliance,create a new one,invite,etc.. YES!
4. Well,whatever! yes...
5.Well,why not?YES
6.Hell Yeah!!! YES!!!!
7.No thanx...
8.Well Yeah!
9.Oh YES!!!
10.Well,whatever NO
11.Well the mods are making modifications..so well....whatever:p
 

DeletedUser22493

1: Sure, why not.
2: Can't really see the need.
3: No. It's gonna be confusing if people keep changing alliance names all the time.
4: Sure, but this is more a bug fix yes?
5: Sure, why not.
6: Sure, as long as its optional.
7: I don't really care. I wont use it.
8: BIG FAT YES!!!!
9: Sure, why not.
10: Nah.. I don't care.
11: Already in development..?
 

DeletedUser

1. Duel wins rankings: I hate it because it doesn't differentiate between quality wins and meaningless wins against people who aren't specced for dueling. If you duel for XP and have a high DL, in general it seems like that should make you a better dueler. I'm for more versatile rankings though, and think all columns should be sortable, so Yes.

2. Show time on bounties: He does make a good case. I just don't think it's worth the trouble to implement. I'll give it a Maybe.

3. Make changing alliance name available to hats: Absolutely Yes. Alliances should have never been implemented without the option.

4. Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance. Originally a solid yes, with a preference to my counter-suggestion where bulk telegrams only give you one copy. It's no longer entirely necessary, with bulk deleting now being an option in 1.32, but still a Yes.

5. Sorting of reports: It seems too complicated. If you care enough to want accurate details, you care enough to make a spreadsheet. I could see some sort of filters depending on the category, like specific job in Work reports and specific type of report in Other, but No in this form.

6. World chat: No, unless the ability to mute specific chat channels is made permanent.

7. Put items on the market from afar: Yes, I don't think it would be too complicated to implement and it would be nice to have in an emergency.

8. Sorting market bids: Absolutely Yes. One of many things that needs to be done to make the market more user friendly. I also agree with making the item visible in the table too, even though it would require changing the layout quite a bit to make room, not only for the reason he posted, but because you can't even see what you bid on in an open auction, which is ridiculous.

9. Center Mini-map Option: Yes of course.

10. Cleaning up the job lists a bit: Yes, that's always bugged me.

11. Poker changes: I can't really say, since I've never used the poker feature.
 

DeletedUser

Not sure how joxter understood #8, but that's a definite yes from me. Probably the best proposal of the 11 here.
1. awesome.
2. not too excited about this one..
3. duh, common sense, should have been done ages ago.
4. although it's been rectified, i still say yes.
5. I personally don't think I'd ever use it, but some may find it useful..
6. Definitely! but with option to shut it off.
7. Nugget users can already do so many other stuff, why not this as well? I see no harm in it, although I don't see it being used very often.
9. another thing I never understood why it wasn't implemented ages ago.
10. The jobs list IS huge, but this could create further confusion for brand new players. The game it complicated enough without having to know which sub-category a specific job fits into.. Where would you put darning socks or drilling for oil? absolutely against this one.
11. No idea, lets see what happens with next upgrade, then we'll review this one again.
 

DeletedUser

Not sure how joxter understood #8, but that's a definite yes from me. Probably the best proposal of the 11 here.

Wow, I hadn't even read his reply. All I can think of is that he thought the idea was for a market route planner, and not just the ability to sort by travel time.

10. The jobs list IS huge, but this could create further confusion for brand new players. The game it complicated enough without having to know which sub-category a specific job fits into.. Where would you put darning socks or drilling for oil? absolutely against this one.

I might have misread this one, but I think you did. It was my impression that it was just about consistent naming for the jobs he listed.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

DeletedUser9470

1. Duel wins rankings: Yes. whether you are an xp duelist or a % duelist doest change a thing, to get to your objective you can hit noob workers in both cases.
i think any table should have sortable columns, be that duel rankings or market distances.

2. Show time on bounties: Maybe, like elmyr says:"He does make a good case. I just don't think it's worth the trouble to implement."

3. Make changing alliance name available: Absolutely Yes. imo this is a bug not an idea, should have been done ages ago.

4. Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance. no, not fussed, i get spam, i delete it, eos.

5. Sorting of reports: maybe when devs run out of things to do...

6. World chat: yes

7. Put items on the market from afar: NO, in an emergency theres always a town around, stop your work, or arrange a RDV.

8. Sorting market bids: Yes. maybe TWpro script devs could also work on a "quickest pickup route" option?

9. Center Mini-map Option: BIG Yes. awesome idea Elmyr, love it, should have been done ages ago.

10. Cleaning up the job lists a bit: NO. not too fussed, not a priority.

11. Poker changes: yes: poker needs a lot of changes, im sure devs are working on it. they should give full tilt poker a go to see how easy and fun they have made it there.
 

DeletedUser

1, 3, and 9 are excellent suggestions.
2, 7, and 10 are fairly decent also
 

HelenBack

Well-Known Member
#1) make a Duel ranking not only for XP but also for won, lost, difference. Yes

#2) Show time on bounties Yes

#3) Make changing alliance name available to hats. Yes

#4) Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance. Yes (if I can vote on my own suggestion)
- And I should clarify... This is when you go to send a bulk telegram to the whole alliance... After it's sent, you have to go through 60+ PAGES to delete them all. Why not just have the option not to be copied in the first place? Also, if someone else sends you a telegram at the same time that you send out the bulk telegram, it may wind up lost amongst your 100s of copies. Anyone here that sends out bulk telegrams knows what I'm talking about... :rolleyes:

#5) Sorting of reports. Yes

#6) World chat. Yes
- Not really fussy, but on the older worlds it may be a nice option.

#7) Put items on the market from afar. Yes
- May be handy once in a while.

#8) In the market place under the tab 'Bids for purchase' I would like the option to be able to sort the lists by preference... Yes and Yes

#9) Center Mini-map Option. Yes
- Would be handy... but what about the folks who choose those locations to hide from everyone? :cool:

#10) Suggestion of cleaning up the job lists a bit: Yes
- I would like to see the jobs sorted a bit better... This may be a good way to do it.

#11) improvements on the poker client so it get a bit more user friendly. Yes
 

DeletedUser

Wow, I hadn't even read his reply. All I can think of is that he thought the idea was for a market route planner, and not just the ability to sort by travel time.
The idea is to remove player's brain from the process, not use nuggets, not use ingame cash (for one or both speed sets) and by sorting implemented or allowed you open a door to a market stuffpicking bot which'll use the first (shortest) route.
I'll never say yes on it Elmyr.
 

DeletedUser

The idea is to remove player's brain from the process, not use nuggets, not use ingame cash (for one or both speed sets) and by sorting implemented or allowed you open a door to a market stuffpicking bot which'll use the first (shortest) route.
I'll never say yes on it Elmyr.

It's SORTING! If you can write a bot, surely you understand dom methods enough to get the travel times, scripting enough to put those times in an array, and arrays enough to sort them. No bot would ever work based on the useless raw data you seem to think they will. Even all of that is meaningless, because the route would not be based on the travel times from your current location, it would be based on the x-y coordinates of each town in relation to each other and your current position. Your argument is completely without merit.
 

DeletedUser

Yes I can write a bot, the only problem is clicking arrows the bot should make to import all data if there are more than 10 items bought (or sold). :)
My argument is that sorted data is possible to abuse so I say - no.
Oh, and that's not the only one argument I have, I numbered a few more of them. Care to say a few words are those "without merit"? :)
 

DeletedUser

Apparently you're completely opposed to logic. Logic dictates that two items bought from the same time should be together in the Bids list. It's not logical and it's sloppy. You're opposed to removing the player's brain from the process? Fine, let us sort the list manually. Part of the idea also includes telling us what we actually bid on. Surely you can't possibly be opposed to that.
 

DeletedUser

But Elmyr, I mentioned arguments of one or both speed sets and the argument of nuggets. What about those two?

As for ideas about tooltips, sure, tooltip on anything can't hurt the game, but please make it a separate idea. Just don't try to smuggle (over my dead body?) a bad idea in a shiny package like this one is. :)
 
Last edited by a moderator:

DeletedUser

Just don't try to smuggle (over my dead body?) a bad idea in a shiny package like this one is.

It's not remotely a bad idea. I've never heard of anyone being so opposed to user friendly on general principle. How can you possibly feel so strongly against this? It's not about thinking for you at all. How does it help you to know that town A and town B are both 1 hour away from your current location when town A is 2 hours from town B, which ALWAYS seems to be the case for me in that situation.

It's user friendly.
It's tidy.
It's common sense.

Quit making mountains out of molehills.
 

DeletedUser20579

1. Make a Duel ranking not only for XP but also for won, lost, difference.
YES – all columns should be sortable.

2. Show time on bounties
NO – The poster of the bounty get notification, thats enough.

3. Make changing alliance name available to hats.
YES – No brainer. Black hats from the creating alliance only.

4. Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance.
NO – Don't like the mail? Leave the town or alliance, ignore the spammer or just delete.

5. Sorting of reports
NO – They are already sorted by time of completion.

6. World chat
NO – County is enough, and it's only used to heckle during fort battles.

7. Put items on the market from afar.
NO – Post from near and the purchaser can nugget them to location.

8. Bids for purchase - I would like the option to be able to sort
YES – all columns should be sortable. In the simplest form, point A to point B, no travel planning.

9. Center Mini-map Option
YES – Or quit putting towns right at the corner

10. Suggestion of cleaning up the job lists a bit:
NO – They are alphabetical, good enough for me.

11. Poker
Being updated as we speak
 

HelenBack

Well-Known Member
4. Have the option NOT to be copied on a bulk telegram to the alliance.
NO – Don't like the mail? Leave the town or alliance, ignore the spammer or just delete.

This is NOT for the receiver... It's for the SENDER who has to send out a battle notice to the entire alliance. Say 300+ telegrams in one go... which equal 50+ PAGES of telegrams that need to be deleted by the SENDER. All that is needed is a little checkbox saying "Do not copy me on this telegram." beside the "Send" button.
:rolleyes:

I think anyone that has to send out battle notices on a regular basis would appreciate this option.
 

DeletedUser9470

This is NOT for the receiver... It's for the SENDER who has to send out a battle notice to the entire alliance. Say 300+ telegrams in one go... which equal 50+ PAGES of telegrams that need to be deleted by the SENDER. All that is needed is a little checkbox saying "Do not copy me on this telegram." beside the "Send" button.
:rolleyes:

I think anyone that has to send out battle notices on a regular basis would appreciate this option.

oi never understood this idea

in which case i am for it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top