Submitted Minor Ideas #10

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  1. Good Feather

    Good Feather Well-Known Member

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    These ideas come from the minor ideas thread. We shall not be voting on these ideas, as that would be to time consuming. However if you have any last minute suggestions or criticisms here is the place to voice them. Otherwise these ideas shall be presented to the developers like any other idea unless there are any comments stating why they shouldn't.

    Please note some of the posts were modified to include comments that were posted and I also reformatted/reworded posts to meet posting guidelines.

    Ive made a notation in the minor ideas where Minor Ideas #10 stops and Minor Ideas #11 will begin. So keep submitting.

    Please state the # of any idea you do or don't like:
    COMMENTS ARE WELCOME NOW



    1.
    http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=544679&postcount=298

    2. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=544816&postcount=299


    3. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=546385&postcount=300
    RESUBMITTING: As users really want it and it seems simply overlooked as it would be a feature that would be heavily used on a daily basis.

    4.
    http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=547083&postcount=301


    5.
    http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=547498&postcount=302
    6. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=549107&postcount=303


    7. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=549704&postcount=305




    8. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=550256&postcount=306


    9. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=552221&postcount=307

    10. http://forum.the-west.net/showpost.php?p=552253&postcount=308

     
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  2. TJ Tuttle

    TJ Tuttle Well-Known Member

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    #4 should not be put forward at all IMO. It had virtually no support when discussed and is based on one individuals RL bidding dislikes. Game Changes, even minor ones should not be based on one individuals likes or dislikes.

    Even more important there is nothing wrong with players trying to buy something as cheap as possible with $1 bids. That is part of the way an action works, those bidding try and get items cheap as possible.

    Taking that option away from them and replacing it with a 10% minimum bidding increase (which on a $5k item for example is a $500 bid increase every time a new bid is placed) favors the seller and gives him an unfair advantage in the auction.

    This idea could not pass a vote, whats more IMO anything that changes the balance of the auction process of the seller trying to get as much as possible for an item ( and the seller already has the option of setting a "buy now" only price for an item) and the buyer trying to buy as cheaply as possible heavily slants the auction process in favor of the seller and this is not a minor game change.
     
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  3. Good Feather

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    TJ this is why we do the discussion here. No minor idea gets past this point until we discuss it in a MINOR IDEAS #x thread.

    I go through and I grab the ideas presented and put them in 1 posting. Dont get defensive. You could have just said #4 needs to be a major idea so it can be voted on.

    I agree some of these ideas might not be minor and might need to be discussed. And #4 will probably be held back... but as you said we cant base it on just 1 individuals likes or dislike of an idea :p

    EDIT oh and my opinion on #4 I think there should be a minimum but Im unsure of what I think the minimum should be I might need to do some math and see what 10% of the base minimum bid is and of the max bid etc. But I dont typically do the bids... I always buy the item at max price since I usually want the item now and dont want to play auction pins and needles.


    Id like to get comments and discussion on all the ideas... so I assume you like the rest of the ideas TJ?
     
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  4. TJ Tuttle

    TJ Tuttle Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I actually thought we had discussed this somewhere else already. (#4)

    And yes I think that the rest are fine. As far as bidding i usually just find the item with a "buy now" price myself. If I want it I want it now also :)

    As far as the base minimum bid is that will vary on the base price for every item.
     
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  5. JonOfTheWest

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    I like everything and I honestly don't have a problem with #4 sure, it doesn't have to be 10% but it should be raised higher than $1. I love being out bid at the very end up of an auction by $1.
     
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    would being out bid at the very end by $25 make you feel any better? :laugh:
     
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    JonOfTheWest Well-Known Member

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    At least it wouldn't be $1! :p
     
  8. herbie49

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    I like also all ideas, #4 is no problem for me either, I also buy it now and not waiting to be out bid.
     
  9. msingh

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    all ideas above are good, and will be improving the game.
     
  10. Good Feather

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    Ok so speaking of #4... should we change the 10% to be $25 increments?
     
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    I think $25 increments are a lot more reasonable.
     
  12. msingh

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    i think 10% if good since on $10000 item next bid min $11000 or more.
    like if i want to buy a 50K item (it will still be the same on high value items). 10% is good.
     
  13. Kengur

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    I think it should be around 2%
    $100= $2 (when's the last time you bought something for $100? Even cookies are in the 1,000's nowadays! We must take in to view the lowest of levels)
    $1,000= $20 (reasonable enough right?)
    $5,000= $100
    $10,000= $200
    $50,000= $1,000 (if you're buying something at this price, and someone outbids you by a mere $25, I don't see much difference if it were $1!)
     
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    #1 - (Harmonica) Fun item but they are "relaxing" ... maybe having it in the product slot should reduce the EP cost of doing a job by 1, which slightly decreases regeneration time.

    #2 - (Indian tribe name) John has a good point.

    #5 - (Archiving) A nice fix but we need even more. We need to be able to hide archived items from the main mailbox to just show unarchived. The "Not archived" folder selection, even followed by a refresh, does not seem to filter out the archived items.

    #7 - (Warning notice on item) Would be helpful especially for those who are new.

    #9 - (Brewing coffee job) Switch out toughness for vigor. It is caffeinated coffee, right?
     
  15. abskay

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    i love all the ideas i think we should change #4 to 25$
     
  16. Good Feather

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    Alright looks like we have a lot saying $25 increases instead of $1.

    Im going to change that #4.

    and submit later tonight.
     
  17. msingh

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    lets take products for example, $20 value product and the next bid will be $45?

    i vote no to #4 idea if that is the case. 100% NO.
     
  18. i say no to #4 because many people do this ask for an item and someone puts it on market and with minimum bid $1 so they only have to pay 1 dollar in fees and get their money from the person who is buying it almost right away (if theres a rule for no pre-thought of market sales than nearly everyone in the whole game can be punished) my many friends need the 1 dollar min fee for they love to help their brethren I haven ever done this or gotten anything out of it but my friends have. oh yea and for #2 whats wrong with the Illinois indians I'm proud my state named the state after them
     
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  19. Elmyr

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    Yes
    2. Absolutely. Iroquouis is completely ignorant of American history and geography and Native American culture.
    3. I posted this when the minor ideas thread was first added and it was the reason I suggested the minor ideas thread to Gem in the first place.
    4. $25 for all items makes no more sense than $1 for all items. It should be a percentage of the opening bid.
    6. Yeah, that wouldn't hurt. Tell TBOM for his future mockups that all text in the game is Arial. :p
    8. I almost said no thinking this was something else, but yeah, definitely. Show walking when you're walking and sleeping or working when you're actually sleeping or working.

    No
    1. Who cares? I can't believe you even included this one.
    5. Don't care either way.
    7. I really don't think any other warning is necessary. You're given one and I hate multiple warnings. It would be inconvenient, but I'd rather see selling to the trader removed completely. It's too easy to check trader, forget you're there, and sell something you're trying to equip, clicking Yes without thinking. ("Of course I want to equip it! What kind of question is that?" "Oops.") Or at least make the trader window look less like the inventory window.
    9. Really don't care about new low difficulty jobs that I MIGHT do on a new world for a day before I outgrow it.
    10. No. Filter out allies, KOed people, and sleeping people, but I don't want a map.
     
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  20. Good Feather

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    Im from Illinois now myself, while I didnt know much about the Illinois Indians. This game is about The West, and the Mississippi river dictates the Gateway to the US West begins there. I'd have to say the Sioux were more Central Northern Indians of the Dakotas... hence the name comes from the Sioux Indian name.

    If you want historically accurate then the desert west was more the area of Texas Arizona, which would be the Indians of the South West.. That would be the Apache Indians. Hopefully someone who knows their Indian history better than I do can double check/correct me. I'm at 1/6th Cherokee now, as my great great great grandfather was an adopted Cherokee Indian.
     
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