Jakkals , i think this is more a cause and effect discussion . (in my opinion) i think what your refferencing is a really obscure effect and not really in context ,i'm sorry if you see it differnt .(Athough copyright , music sampling and ownership is something im also intrested in ,google "girl talk" one of the most progressive artists in sampling /loop music and see his ongoing david and golith struggle he's been fighting for years,i hope you find him of intrest)
To answer Hellstromm's reply (on topic and considered) , "The questions then arise --- will they be the "right" changes and will it be too late?" ,i think if you look to Eygpt and the great example of people power ,there is also very much an alarm bell there ,in once they achieved thier objuective to derail the goverment ,the what comes next question is very much one of contension .
(I'll premept this with :bear with me here)
The World Bank says the global economy is on the edge of a new financial crisis, deeper and more damaging than the one that followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008.
Its latest six-monthly assessment of global economic prospects halves its forecast for growth among high-income countries, and pushes its forecast for countries using the euro into negative territory.
It has slashed its global growth forecast for 2012 from 3.6 per cent to 2.5 per cent. High-income nations are forecast to grow at 1.4 per cent rather than 2.7 per cent. The euro area's economy will shrink 0.3 per cent.
(quoted from Peter Martin ,Sydney Morning Herald ,fairfax media group)
As you pointed to with examples of russia,china and the americas , they were points in history were the perceptions of the people (those in power & indeed those wanting to be in power) that they faced an impassable situation that could'nt be adressed without a complete change down to structure in society. ,i realize that's very general in summary,and there was a tragic human cost in all three examples,russia taking first place)
Going off history , could it not be argued that as of right now , the key catalyst's for any major change ( historically) are in place? Financial ruin,an enviroment where the majority feels thier government is failing and the like are all key triggers for civil unrest.
Also it's worth noting (and this has been discussed in view of the middle east unrest by many commentators) that with the introduction of social media these groups can spread thier message further and quicker than ever before . In the past rallies have been organized within the community of unrest (example ,vietnam war protests of the 60's were usually organized through university/student groups,a relativly small contact demographic) but now with the likes of facebook/twitter these groups can acess a vast number of people reguardless of personal links .In that i'd say further ,not only are a series of events (now and unfolding) in place that leads to fundamental political change,but equally as important the means for this change have never before been so acsessable.
I've been to the odd rally and it's always struck me during speaches that it's not me you have to convince ,i'm here ,im sold ,it's the conservative demographic ,and i'll refer back to my previous post in relation to the greens . Where the greens have been smart (or lucky) is that they present an alternative (and in the context of conservation,a radical alternative) that's acessable ,meaning with a shift in public perception of issues that are important to them ,there already in place as a party that everyone can vote for . It's hard to vote for occupy wall street no matter how much you agree with it .
I'd also say that it would be very much the right time for a thrid party in America , if people can stage occupy movements , why can't they present a cantidate ,find thier own spin doctors/advertising campain and play the game.I think in my example of Australian politics it's obvious that if the alternative party is in place ,not only is it adventagous to capiltalise in a development of shift in voter consisnous, but also to safeguard against a rise in a politcical movement even more determentail. (is it a long bow to draw in saying that 1932 germany had the seeds to become something differnt than it did,but the alternative presented the loudest was the one the majority flocked to ,not because it was better ,but because it offered hope?) and from that time , Chamberlin made a remark close to :evil flourish's when good men sit by and do nothing, to me that sentiment is forever relevant.
To summerize i believe that in our lifetimes this moment in America will present .With everything it's timing and choices offered , it's my sincere hope that the "right" change (or indeed the "left" change) is the one that is opitunistic enough to be taken.I've often thought ,as Hellstromm stated ,that people don't care enough,as a people were not just on the road to ruin ,we've turned it into a double laned highway,and while i fully appriciate my argument is optimistic to say the least ,dare i say hopeful ,isn't that one of the redeeming features of humanity? , in that ,when we are in crisis,no matter how badly we were at fault on the road to that crisis , we are capable of great integrity and true nobilty. I for one (and i believe im one of many ) am not ready to trade my hope for resignation.
