Feedback Dia De Los Muertos 2025

Vicero

Member
Feedback: The Dia De Los Muertos event demonstrates just how much gold can be devalued. The Dia De Los Muertos event makes it extremely expensive to be a competitive player. Whether a competitive player consumes all their rewarded gold or buys more with real world money the Dia De Los Muertos event forces the west game into a very expensive online game category.

Regardless of what a players strategy is playing for free items is relatively easy but not very rewarding. To take full advantage of the Dia De Los Muertos event requires reaching into that bag of gold and tossing it to chance. In short the event devalues the player to have to pay so much real world money to compete. Either discontinue the Dia De Los Muertos or discontinue the real world sale of game nuggets all together.

Make the west game completely free to play

Disadvantages:
  • costs of operation without an income would make the game a liability
  • less development and attention to detail would need to be removed from the budget
  • if a completely free game gained popularity gamers would not play other games that do provide a revenue
  • it could cause a reaction from players in other games to want a me-too trend
Advantages:
  • game play in the west would be a lot less tension creating for competitive players restricted by the pull to spend real-world money
  • a free game would demonstrate good-will thereby raising the integrity of the company
  • it could bring new life to an older game
  • a more human element would be introduced to the game that does not revolve around real world sales making the game an excellent attraction to other games that do collect larger amounts of revenue
The Dia De Los Muertos event made me think about the west game more and as a result spending my time to offer my feedback on the Dia De Los Muertos event.
:rolleyes:
looking at this in a different context perhaps someone might say what you do for a living is indeed something that should be done for free... that changes things a bit don't it?
 

Abydos1

Well-Known Member
I don't like the DOTD event one bit and wouldn't mind if it was removed but unfortunately that would also mean the end of the game as we know it...
 

Thanatoss

Well-Known Member
Its really not that hard. In two of my worlds I buy the flower bucket, do the repeatable quests, attend the very few battles we actually have and then just build the church for the rest of the event and I still end up getting a couple of Red letters at the end of the event.
Unless you are using premium energy and automation you cant do this. Also tons of buffs. And as you said you bought the pot. What I am saying is it is supposed to be a free set. If that was the case you should need less than 100k flowers just to be possible for the average player that login 2-3 times a day and doesnt use premium. Then give different rewards to those that gather more.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE F2P YOU MOST PROBABLY NEED THE FREE SET

BUT IF ITS TOO EASY FOR YOU AND YOU ARE P2W YOU DONT EVEN NEED THE FREE SET MOST OF THE TIMES ANYWAY
 

White Wolf

Well-Known Member
Unless you are using premium energy and automation you cant do this. Also tons of buffs. And as you said you bought the pot. What I am saying is it is supposed to be a free set. If that was the case you should need less than 100k flowers just to be possible for the average player that login 2-3 times a day and doesnt use premium. Then give different rewards to those that gather more.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE F2P YOU MOST PROBABLY NEED THE FREE SET

BUT IF ITS TOO EASY FOR YOU AND YOU ARE P2W YOU DONT EVEN NEED THE FREE SET MOST OF THE TIMES ANYWAY

I can confirm. It's undoable without automation/extra energy or losing your sleep.

It's free, provided you also buy nuggets first :lol:
 

Pankreas PorFavor

Well-Known Member
really? OK, maybe I am more active than some other players, but I use premium in one world, while I am non-premium in 3 .net worlds + beta. I always spend 600 bonds on bags/flower pots/whatever and I can't remember the last time I did not get a free set in all the worlds where I play. I do the quests, queue 1h jobs and that's all. using my 100 energy points every day and that is more or less it. if I use an energy buff to get 15 energy points every 2-3 days, that's more an exception than a rule. spending 600 bonds on the flower pot is indeed profitable. I always reach 140k flowers and then some, so I get bond envelopes in the last days of the event which makes the flower pot (almost) free or even profitable (depends how active I am that year).
I understand if someone has a different style of play, but I disagree with the statement that it is impossible to get the free set if you're non-premium. maybe you can reconsider how you use your bonds if you really care about getting the set? I mean, the bonds are also free, you collect them by playing the game... there has to be some way to reward activity, not all f2p players are the same.
 

WesternCalin

Well-Known Member
really? OK, maybe I am more active than some other players, but I use premium in one world, while I am non-premium in 3 .net worlds + beta. I always spend 600 bonds on bags/flower pots/whatever and I can't remember the last time I did not get a free set in all the worlds where I play. I do the quests, queue 1h jobs and that's all. using my 100 energy points every day and that is more or less it. if I use an energy buff to get 15 energy points every 2-3 days, that's more an exception than a rule. spending 600 bonds on the flower pot is indeed profitable. I always reach 140k flowers and then some, so I get bond envelopes in the last days of the event which makes the flower pot (almost) free or even profitable (depends how active I am that year).
I understand if someone has a different style of play, but I disagree with the statement that it is impossible to get the free set if you're non-premium. maybe you can reconsider how you use your bonds if you really care about getting the set? I mean, the bonds are also free, you collect them by playing the game... there has to be some way to reward activity, not all f2p players are the same.
I play only on Colorado and i can say that without using any nuggets i buy the flower pot to get my free set as soon as possible and then i get all the bonds back plus atleast another 1-1.5k more bonds so for sure it depends how active you are but it's more than possible to get what you need to win the free set.
 

Thanatoss

Well-Known Member
Maybe i am overreacting because i have missed the full free set quite a few times while using premium medals and energy buffs. Guess I will see this event how it will go.
 

chad4359

Member
Unless you are using premium energy and automation you cant do this. Also tons of buffs. And as you said you bought the pot. What I am saying is it is supposed to be a free set. If that was the case you should need less than 100k flowers just to be possible for the average player that login 2-3 times a day and doesnt use premium. Then give different rewards to those that gather more.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE F2P YOU MOST PROBABLY NEED THE FREE SET

BUT IF ITS TOO EASY FOR YOU AND YOU ARE P2W YOU DONT EVEN NEED THE FREE SET MOST OF THE TIMES ANYWAY
You're right, I definitely use some buffs and a couple of medals but usually only to get through the repeatable quests as quickly as possible. I understand that new players would not be able to do these things and it would be hard for them to get the set. However, any player who has been playing for over a year should have the means to do this without nuggets.
 

Thanatoss

Well-Known Member
You're right, I definitely use some buffs and a couple of medals but usually only to get through the repeatable quests as quickly as possible. I understand that new players would not be able to do these things and it would be hard for them to get the set. However, any player who has been playing for over a year should have the means to do this without nuggets.
Well even every 5 days you get 15 nuggets for free. So if you really need a set you can use 50 and 50 for energy and automation if you really need the set.

My proposal was to just give the free set in earlier rewards and give some other rewards to the higher brackets. That way the f2p players who do need it get it while the p2w players who 100% get it and usually dont need it will get other more useful rewards for them too.
 

Amaterasu

Member
Please share your feedback on this years Dia De Los Muertos

Best regards
Your The West Team
did y'all DECREASE the chance to get a reward from the loteria or what the actual **** is happenning??? :)))))) a few days before it seemed to be better than it was in the beginning but from yesterday it's so much worse :))) like almost every card is a reaper like what the actual ****? :))) I bet the chance to get the reaper is like 50%, maybe more on the 5th stage
 

mnnielsen

The West Team
Community Manager
did y'all DECREASE the chance to get a reward from the loteria or what the actual **** is happenning??? :)))))) a few days before it seemed to be better than it was in the beginning but from yesterday it's so much worse :))) like almost every card is a reaper like what the actual ****? :))) I bet the chance to get the reaper is like 50%, maybe more on the 5th stage
no, nothing has changed
 

White Wolf

Well-Known Member
Can you please rework the event quests that require us to click 200 times on a single job? I know that many people who play this game use dobby, autoclickers or don't have a personal life in general, but come on. 200*15 sec = 50 min. How can you expect someone to spend 50 minutes from their life spamming clicks on an old browser game? At this rate you're asking people to use scripts.
 

Amaterasu

Member
Can you please rework the event quests that require us to click 200 times on a single job? I know that many people who play this game use dobby, autoclickers or don't have a personal life in general, but come on. 200*15 sec = 50 min. How can you expect someone to spend 50 minutes from their life spamming clicks on an old browser game? At this rate you're asking people to use scripts.
just don't do quests :)) you spend 100-200 energy but you get only a few flowers per job and the reward isn't big enough to be worth it. I just do 1 hour jobs and you get more flowers. I only did 1 of the quest lines. it's good to check the quest lines before starting them to see if they are worth doing
 

White Wolf

Well-Known Member
just don't do quests :)) you spend 100-200 energy but you get only a few flowers per job and the reward isn't big enough to be worth it. I just do 1 hour jobs and you get more flowers. I only did 1 of the quest lines. it's good to check the quest lines before starting them to see if they are worth doing
Valid opinion but I still think they should actually work on their quest-making skills and make them engaging instead of a chore.
 

WesternCalin

Well-Known Member
Can you please rework the event quests that require us to click 200 times on a single job? I know that many people who play this game use dobby, autoclickers or don't have a personal life in general, but come on. 200*15 sec = 50 min. How can you expect someone to spend 50 minutes from their life spamming clicks on an old browser game? At this rate you're asking people to use scripts.
There are only a handful of quests that require you to do more than 50 times a certain job. I dont understand why it's such a problem when this quests are made to have something to do, they are not required to finish the game or finish a certain event/milestone. There are people out there that never did any quest and they didnt miss out on anything or smaller things that dont make such an influence in this game.
Probably the most important ones are those that give AP/SP points but at how much of them you get from sets nowdays quests give a very insignificant value.
 

Vertsida

Active Member
day 1/ 1 death
day 2/ 1 death
day 3/ 1 death
day 4 / [item=54659000]
day 5/ 1 death
day 6/ 2 death
day 7/ 2 death
day 8/ 4 death
day 8/ 3 death
day 9/ 2 death
day 10/ 1 death
day 11/ 2 death
day 12/ 3 death
day 13/ 2 death

so far how it goes in colorado :p
 

Andrej93

Well-Known Member
So the probability of picking a winning card is 2/3 in the first round. All probabilities are:
1. round 67%
2. round 44%
3. round 30%
4. round 20%
5. round 13%

So if you go by rounds:
You picked a bad card in the 1st round: 5x
You picked a good card in the 1st round: 9x
That gives you a round winning rate of 64% (roughly what it's intended)
That gives you a cumulative winning rate of 64% (roughly what it's intended)

You picked a bad card in the 2nd round: 5x
You picked a good card in the 2nd round: 4x
That gives you a round winning rate of 44% (lower than what it's intended)
That gives you a cumulative winning rate of 29% (lower than what it's intended)

You picked a bad card in the 3rd round: 2x
You picked a good card in the 3rd round: 2x
That gives you a round winning rate of 50% (lower than what it's intended)
That gives you a cumulative winning rate of 14% (lower than what it's intended)

You picked a bad card in the 4th round: 1x
You picked a good card in the 4th round: 1x
That gives you a round winning rate of 50% (lower than what it's intended)
That gives you a cumulative winning rate of 7% (lower than what it's intended)

You picked a bad card in the 5th round: 0x
You picked a good card in the 5th round: 1x
That gives you a round winning rate of 100% (higher than what it's intended)
That gives you a cumulative winning rate of 7% (lower than what it's intended)

I wouldn't say its rigged - you're just unlucky.
Also, from experience from last year, it was impossible to get Fortune Teller/ Reaper hat and necks (2nd round and prices were 0.8-1.2 mil on market), but the market was full of rifles and guns (5th round and prices started at 200k. So maybe accept these lower rewards and then sell them for money to buy higher rewards :)
 
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