Changes to dueling - not a whiney thread

DeletedUser12008

they haven't screwed up with Forts and I just don't see them stuffing it up now (and we know they haven't rushed it either :p).
IMHO they have screwed up the fort.

The faults in implementation
1. Why new skills are used in fort battle, if somebody has developed the character to be dueler/fighter same should be applicable in town shootout.
2. Why you need to buy a different weapon, why cant you use a precise revolver no 1 to shoot somebody if you are inside fort.
3. what was the hurry to release it when most of the functionalities are not there. you just build it and defend it for the heck of it.

Now there are two games in one and you require different skill sets to play it.
A level 50 Firearm dueler need to have stamina leadership and hiding plus new gun and cloths to fight a fort battle. if you re-spec,(mind you, you will not get money, experience) you will get beaten up in normal duels.

Very good implementation :/.

Some people develop their character carefully for a task (one of them is dueling), and you release a patch which makes it in some manner irrelevant.

I am going to start a"whiny" thread to explain why this game is only good for few, and one only does not leave it because that person has developed a community and enjoy time with his community.
 
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DeletedUser1105

manialok, if it was made how you wanted it, only Soldiers and Duellers could participate and do well.

How is that fair to the rest of the playing community?

You are allowed to play on multiple worlds, so you could always have a specialist dueller or a specialist fort fighter. If you don't have time for another world, then you have to choose - just like you have to choose between being a builder or a dueller.

And I love the fact that it uses a different weapon.
 

DeletedUser

If anything, this will just make people get all the best items for the jobs they wish to duel at. It will make dueller builds more strategic (e.g. What type of person works this job? How can I counter that build).

It will add a whole new concept to the game of chasing people around. Sounds like more fun, if you ask me :)
 

DeletedUser12008

Yes only solider/dueler should do well if it is about fighting.

May be it is only me, but I like to be in control of my character when playing game, If I make mistake I pay for the consequences. When I made choice of being builder then I was ready to loose the duels but decided to be a better builder (similarly with making choice of duelers/solider).

Now a patch (not new world) is released, which tells me that the ppl who did not place their skills properly will get benefit in fort battle, is kind of disappointing.

And it is fair to rest of community as they made their own choice.
It is similar to releasing a patch say "Grand market" where you can buy/sell items on bargain prices and higher your skill1, better deal you get. And what that skill1 is "Aim"!! Does that make sense, a trader should certainly whine about it. Skill should be trading not Aim.

Yes I should certainly not whine about it, if it was released in new world, where you start a fresh and know pros and cons of placing skills in leadership/hiding/stamina.

Dev should not be casual about releasing patch with new features in exiting world. Lot of player spend significant amount of time with this game (I ve spent 5 months in developing one character & I am sure there are many who spent more time),not to find that you need to change your skills.

OK may be this game is meant to be like this "the world has changed, you are old now, your riding skills are irrelevant, because we have invented bikes" :)
Still I want to complain like old whiny man *sigh* "good old time "

BTW I m just talking about the game design, not specifically about advantage/disadvantage related to my character
 

Diggo11

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@ Manialok - Your entitled to your personal opinion, but it seems you stand alone on this one. Also would you like us to remove Forts from every world simply because it's unfair you didn't know the pros and cons of each skill?

Anyway back on topic.
 

DeletedUser

This game is being developed as we speak, some updates will be to your favor and some wont.

We could have just made world 10 and have only that world have forts so everyone would have been on a equal playing field but then all the high lvl players would be complaining now wouldnt they.
 

DeletedUser

Most melee & resilience duelers of a reasonable level will be able to see Drilling for Oil. You don't need to be able to do a job to click on a players icon and select duel. Unless that is going to change.

- Haven't read the entire thread admittedly.
 

Diggo11

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Most melee & resilience duelers of a reasonable level will be able to see Drilling for Oil. You don't need to be able to do a job to click on a players icon and select duel. Unless that is going to change.

- Haven't read the entire thread admittedly.
Well there's your first lesson isn't it ;)

Somewhere in the thread we brought up that you can always use the duel button on a player's profile, so there is no need to see the job they're standing at :)
 

DeletedUser

I think they shouldn't change the dueling. I just started the game *sigh* again, and Dueling was hard enough back when the towns organised their own little militias and would track you down. If there should be Any changes in dueling, the changes should be to give the Dueler a chance to win a fight because Soldiers are superior to Duelers right now, and the one thing a fighter doesn't need is a rule to restrict him from what he can-and-cannot do.


You see, a Fighter may choose to Only fight people, not work, and they may make a living off of other's misfortuines. Also, they should not stop a dueler from attacking one rich person over and over again just because the rich person is weak an cannot fight. The Hotel stay is 8 hours, and most people have 2 slots so they can sleep in the hotel 16 hours. That's just enough to wake up in the morning and add another night. If they are going to add the Free Map dueling, they should add absolutely NO limitations because that would make the game a whole lot less fun because Duelers are on a short rope as it is already. And I don't want to quit again because of boredom instead of real life issues. People lived in fear in the old west, the game is already unrealistic enough as it is.
 
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