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thanks nakshtrap i never knew that
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Is that true?..... So if I wanted to level up super fast, I can just do Evangelizing (that's the best I got so far) for 3 days solid in between sleep and still keep the exp high and luck?
Iv'e been blinded all this time:sad:
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Oh well looks like danzeman has finally found a cheat to this game!
Oh and danzeman i noticed you are replying to almost all of my posts lol
Oh and danzeman i noticed you are replying to almost all of my posts lol
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dont thank me, thank the search engine of this forum, it works
check my sig for details........
check my sig for details........
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you mean Hide
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well, that's the only hyperlink, isn't it?
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Labor points doesn't effect experience gained, but motivation does. So once your motivation hit 0% you wouldn't gain any xp.
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move your mouse over the LP box and it says that it affects xp
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Move your mouse over the LP box, read what it actually says, then come back here and apologize for spreading incorrect information on the forums...
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i've closed the west. will do it tommorow
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Thanks for the formula, Doc, but I'm not sure if this is an answer to the question that I've been reading this thread to find (I'm not that good at math!). When I click on a task and it tells me how many labor points I'll earn, is that per hour -- i.e., does a 15 pointer pay 30 points if I do that task for 2 hours?
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You don't earn labor points, you earn experience points.
CALCULATIONS REMOVED AS THEY WERE WRONG. CORRECTED VERSION POSTED BELOW. APOLOGIES FOR ANY CONFUSION AND THANKS TO Dr.Drud FOR POINTING IT OUT.
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Yes kind of a cheat, just need to keep my motivation up there, maybe 2 hours a day is all I'm gonna get.
Well Jord you must post some interesting stuff I guess, I never noticed my self but it must be true :unsure:
Edit: oh yea did I mention I was convicted 5 times for stalking people?
Cheers fella, level 46 and still I don't know much, it's like Iv'e just gone on auto pilot the last 30 odd levels
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u guys worked so hard 2 work that out, well done
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With such great random generator as works in this game, it's a bit pointless to think about formulas
When you can get $35 or $135 on same job with same motivation and LP.
When you can get $35 or $135 on same job with same motivation and LP.
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that is so true
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All your calculations are (as far as I can see) completely correct. There's just one major flaw: Trading only gives 3% xp, not 15%. So the real mininum would be ~3 xp and the real max would be ~9, which seems to be very much in line with what you have gotten.
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With such great random generator as works in this game, it's a bit pointless to think about formulas
When you can get $35 or $135 on same job with same motivation and LP.
No matter how diverse the random part of the equation is, it still works very well if you're only interested in expected experience gained: Then just set the random number equal to 1 (effectively removing it from the equation without altering anything else). As long as you do a job more than a single 2-hour period your gained xp should end up fairly close to the average.
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Doc pointed out that the XP% value I had used in my original example was wrong. I had used the $% value.hmy: It just goes to show that it is always worth re-checking things before you post. I have removed the incorrect calculation to avoid any confusion. Below is the same example but using the correct value.
* Exp% - 3%
* Hours Worked - 2
* Motivation% - 100%
We get:
So for X=0.5
* Session 1 = 0.75
* Session 2 = 0.74
* Session 3 = 0.73
* Session 4 = 0.72
Giving a total of 2.98
And for X=1.5
* Session 1 = 2.25
* Session 2 = 2.22
* Session 3 = 2.18
* Session 4 = 2.15
Giving a total of 8.8
This would mean that doing trading for 2 hours with a starting motivation of 100% would give between 2.98 and 8.8 experience. I have been doing quite a bit of trading on some worlds (all at 100% motivation) and the last five have yielded 5, 6, 7, 5 and 6 experience respectively. This now shows (as Doc said) that the values I got are within the expected range and the formula he provided does indeed seem to work.
A much larger sample of actual results would be needed to prove beyond all doubt that it is right, but I certainly now have no problem in accepting it.
hmy: It just goes to show that it is always worth re-checking things before you post. I have removed the incorrect calculation to avoid any confusion. Below is the same example but using the correct value.The following values are for doing trading:
* Exp% - 3%
* Hours Worked - 2
* Motivation% - 100%
We get:
The 'X' is a random value between 0.5 and 1.5 so I will do the sum twice, once for 0.5 and once for 1.5 so we get a minimum and maximum.
I have read another thread somewhere that states this is calculated for each 30 minute time slot. So for the first 30 min motivation=100%, for the second 98.5%, third 97% and for the last 95.5% (this means if we start another 30 min session straight away then we would begin at 94%).
So for X=0.5
* Session 1 = 0.75
* Session 2 = 0.74
* Session 3 = 0.73
* Session 4 = 0.72
Giving a total of 2.98
And for X=1.5
* Session 1 = 2.25
* Session 2 = 2.22
* Session 3 = 2.18
* Session 4 = 2.15
Giving a total of 8.8
This would mean that doing trading for 2 hours with a starting motivation of 100% would give between 2.98 and 8.8 experience. I have been doing quite a bit of trading on some worlds (all at 100% motivation) and the last five have yielded 5, 6, 7, 5 and 6 experience respectively. This now shows (as Doc said) that the values I got are within the expected range and the formula he provided does indeed seem to work.
A much larger sample of actual results would be needed to prove beyond all doubt that it is right, but I certainly now have no problem in accepting it.
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It's clear for long run average. What is not clear for me - it's how depends money on LP and %.
Working last 11 days non-stop for money with 30 min runs:
- oil drill: 83%, 2 LP ~ $80
- paddle steamer: 82%, 8 LP ~ $80
- silver mining: 76%, 21 LP ~ $90
- clearing the forest: 62%, 144 LP ~ $60
Working last 11 days non-stop for money with 30 min runs:
- oil drill: 83%, 2 LP ~ $80
- paddle steamer: 82%, 8 LP ~ $80
- silver mining: 76%, 21 LP ~ $90
- clearing the forest: 62%, 144 LP ~ $60