New ranking

DeletedUser

This idea scored very well in the netherlands. 59 players voted yes, and 2 players votes no. Look at the idea in the netherlands here. Now in english for you (sorry for bad language):

Proposal
A renewed ranking.

Current Workaround
By now, the ranking is really old and some new things like fort battles and achievement points are not implented.

Details
There have been a lot of ideas about the lay-out and content of the ranking recently. I have chosen some of these and combined them into this one. This is my idea:
- A new style for the ranking.
- There will be a ranking for players, towns, alliances, and of course the hall of fame.
- Alongside the character, the profession of the player will also be visible.
- Three new buttons in de player-ranking, for friendship request, duelling and telegram.
- There will be a ranking in overall points for towns and alliances, but also duelling points, forts and other types.
- Very much new rankings for players, towns, and alliances:
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General
Experience
Jobs Finished
Praying
Praying [X-mas]
Knocked out
Knocked out [Jobs]
Completed quests
Union flag recieved
Deposit on bank
Amount deposited
Highest amount deposited

Duels
Duels won
Duels lost
Knocked out [Duel]
Knocked out oppenents
‘One-hit’ victory
Failed duels

Fort Battles
Fort battles completed
Fort battles won
Fort battles lost
Sole survivor
Held the flag
Hit count
missed shots
damage inflicted
hits taken
dodged shots
damage taken
average damage done
Knocked out [Battles]

Crafting
Crafted items
Crafted items [Lesser recipes]
Ccrafted items [Simple recipes]
Crafted items [Difficult recipes]
Crafted items [Critical]
R learned
Buffs used

Building
Building levels completed
Unsuccessful building construction
Used construction points
Level advanced by building Construction

Distance
Distance travelled
Travelled [By foot]
Travelled [By donkey]
Travelled [By horse]
Travelled [By Quarter]

Bounty
Highest bounty
Lowest bounty
Wanted persons caught
Bounty received
Wanted posters created
Wanted Dead posters created
Bounty offered
Highest bounty offered

Skills
No changes
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Abuse Prevention
Maybe by some rankings people can choose there oppenents on results. These rankings can be hidded/deleted.

Visual Aids
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Summary
A renewed ranking, with several different rankings and a better lay-out.

Administration
Does this idea meet the Ideas Guidelines & Criteria? Yes/No
Does this idea appear on any of the Previously Suggested Ideas List? Yes/No

EDIT: To avoid problems, my name on the dutch version/forum of the-west is 125stylie. I don't know my password of my 125stylie account on the-west.net. Therefore, this account. Also important: In the dutch version the idea is a bit different. Please look at the idea here. The idea in the netherlands is an 'old' version.
 
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DeletedUser563

Details
There have been a lot of ideas about the lay-out and content of the ranking recently. I have chosen some of these and combined them into this one. This is my idea:
- A new style/layout for ranking.
1. There will be subcategories of rankings for players, towns and hall of fame

Players:
added rankings :

1.Total achievements points
2.Fort battle stats -visible in current players ranking as well
3. Skills

Changes to current ranking page
1. the current setup shows only the character class mine will show craft as well.
2. Two new clickable icons/ buttons in de player-ranking, for friendship request (+ icon)and telegram(envelope)

TOWNS
- Besides the current system of town rankings . I would add also separate rankings for
1.duelling points
2.Total experience of all residents.
3. Fort fights- stats i presume?
4.Achievement points

and other types as can be suggested by you
(else you needed to suggest it)

Ok yes from me.

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not manus 97 was just interested whether animation gifs worked here as well.
 
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DeletedUser

yes, though a new ranking sys has been in the talks, from what I've heard.
 

DeletedUser

I'd recommend NOT having the Achievement points on the main Ranking page if you're going to be suggesting a separate ranking tab for Achievements anyway.
Also I'd NOT want it having the "friend" and "message" and "profession" buttons on the player ranking screen.
Main reason for this is that it takes up space meaning that more Player and Town names end up getting abbreviated to unreadable names, especially with the introduction of "Titles" in front of a player's actual name, so leave unnecessary items that aren't related to ranking off of the Ranking list and just have them on the actual player profile.

However I would like to see an additional 'ranking tab' for "Alliances" whereby any alliances on a world are ranked by their total player points, town points, fort points, duel points etc etc - would make alliance rivalry more fun and give people something to aim for :)
 

DeletedUser

I'm sure we could have a drop-down for those buttons on the ranking page.
 

DeletedUser

yep, was thinking the same thing Firefly. Fort rankings are good, lots of silly options (like messaging) on the ranking is bad. Perhaps the route to take is presenting clear fort rankings, indicate what type of rankings. If you don't, the developers will figure it on their own, and you may not like thr end results.
 

DeletedUser

Thanks for all your replies :)

EDIT: On your opinions i made a new idea, a bit different.

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Proposal
A renewed ranking.

Current Workaround
By now, the ranking is really old and some new things like fort battles and achievement points are not implented.

Details
There have been a lot of ideas about the lay-out and content of the ranking recently. I have chosen some of these and combined them into this one. This is my idea:
- A new style for the ranking.
- There will be a ranking for players, towns, alliances and of course the hall of fame.
- The achievements points and fort battles will be new in the ranking of players, towns and alliances.
- Alongside the character, the profession of the player will also be visible.
- Two new buttons in de player-ranking, for friendship request and telegram.
- There will be a ranking in overall points for towns and alliances, but also duelling points, forts, skills and other types.

Abuse Prevention
People could invite everyone by clicking on the '+' knop. You kan avoid this to make a pop-up with a text like 'do you want to invite this player?'.

Visual Aids
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Summary
A renewed ranking, with several different rankings and a better lay-out.

Administration
Does this idea meet the Ideas Guidelines & Criteria? Yes/No
Does this idea appear on any of the Previously Suggested Ideas List? Yes/No

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As you see i made a new ranking for alliances, and I deleted the achievement points out of the experience ranking. I kept the friend-request and telegram button because it's a part of my idea.

greetings :)
 
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DeletedUser

I wouldn't even mind if ALL statistics were ranked as well. I could see nuggets used being confidential, but I think even comparing how far everyone has traveled by donkey would be interesting.
 

DeletedUser

So you're thinking a ranking for all of these?

General
Jobs finished
Gone to pray
Gone to pray at Christmas
Building levels completed
Unsuccessful building construction
Used construction points
Level advanced by building construction
Knocked out
Knocked out during a job
Distance travelled
Distance travelled by foot
Distance travelled by donkey
Distance travelled by horse
Distance travelled by Quarter
Completed quests
Union flag received
The bank deposits were completed
The foreign bank deposits were completed
Amount deposited into the bank
Amount deposited into a foreign bank
Highest amount deposited into the bank
NPC duels lost
NPC duels won
Money won in NPC duels
Money lost in NPC duels
Beaten unconscious in NPC duels
Lost consciousness in NPC duels
Experience gained in NPC duels

Crafting
Number of crafted items
Number of crafted items from lesser recipes
Number of crafted items from simple recipes
Number of crafted items from difficult recipes
Number of crafted items (critical)
Number of recipes learned
Number of buffs used

Duels
Knocked out in a duel
Knocked out opponents
Duels as challenger
Duels won
Duels lost
"One-Hit" Duel victory
Failed duels

Bounty
Highest bounty
Lowest bounty
Wanted persons caught
Bounty received
Highest bounty offered
Wanted posters created
Wanted Dead posters created
Bounty offered

Fort Wars
Fort battle completed
Fort battle won
Sole survivor of a fort battle
Held the flag
hit count
missed shots
damage inflicted
hits taken
dodged shots
damage taken
average damage done
passed out during fight
 

DeletedUser563

i would say
So you're thinking a ranking for all of these?

Filtered: Meaning every column sortable in order from highest to lowest.

1.General(fILTERED)Jobs finished/Gone to pray/Building levels completed/Used construction points/Amount deposited into the bank.Completed quests/Number of crafted items {Shortened terms with legend for example NOQC = Number of Quests Completed)


2.Distance travelled(FILTERED)/by foot/ donkey// horse/ Quarter


3.NPC Duels ( filtered) (npc duels won/NPC duels lost/NPC duels won/money won/money lost/ko'd/experience gained)


4.Duels- Perhaps extend to include if not already(filtered)
Knocked out in a duel,Knocked out opponents,Duels as challenger,Duels won,Duels lost,"One-Hit" Duel victory,Failed duels

5.Bounty(Filtered)Highest bounty/Lowest bounty/Wanted persons caught/Bounty received/Highest bounty offered/Wanted posters created/Wanted Dead posters created/Bounty offered

6.Fort Wars(filtered)Fort battle completed/Fort battle won/Sole survivor of a fort battle/Held the flag/hit count/missed shots/damage inflicted/hits taken/dodged shots/damage taken/average damage done/passed out during fight

7.SKILLS Separate skills tables disappears. Useless skills removed(those we cant see) new single table with shortened mnemonic abbreviations(think thats the term) with legend or yellow tooltip For example fms = Fine Motor Skills STR = Strength DEX = Desterity. (AP IN UPPERCASE/Skills in lower case)(Filtered)/ ABUSE all players skills are now visible or keep it as current only top 50 or whatever. Players own skills fully shown.. Skills ranking would be bit controversial Ok but you decide.

Therefore 6 new rankings in total with renovated skills ranking. Other stats can also be included if they would be deemed to be popular.
 
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DeletedUser

So you're thinking a ranking for all of these?

Jobs fini......during fight

(If the game can do stupid abbreviations then so can I!!)

Well Hell not sure if Elmyr wanted it all but....all that info is already stored by the game now and is viewable for/by each person within the Achievements sections of player profiles now, all you'd need would be an Achievements Ranking screen a bit like the existing Skills Ranking screen.
So by default you'd click into Achievements in Ranking and it would have everyone ranked in order of total achievement points, but then at the bottom you'd have a drop-down or scroll section where you could choose to view a comparitive ranking of 'miles travelled by donkey' or 'jobs finished' or whatever and it would then show that ranking info instead - (similar to how you can in the existing skills menu change to view ranking of players Vigor/Trading/Swimming etc etc)
Ranking heaven since 2011 :)
 

DeletedUser563

What I mean with filtered firefly is that you would click on the top of a column the "title" it will then sort the table according to that category. There is no need to bring scrolls or other stuff in. Just a simple click. For example

Player|STR| fms | stm|
1. John |100|230|123|
2. Peter |230|229|340|

Anyway lets say I click on fms The table then shows John as the player with the most Fine Motor Skills(Current view) but if I click on stm Peter will be displayed first as the player with the most Stamina. So there is no need for anything but the table.
 
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DeletedUser

The most simple thing what they can do if all statistics would be ranked is do what they have done by achievements.

-General
- Walkig
- Working
- Etc
-Duels
- Winning
- Losing
- Etc
- Etc
 

DeletedUser9470

So you're thinking a ranking for all of these?

General
Jobs finished
Gone to pray
Gone to pray at Christmas
Building levels completed
Unsuccessful building construction
Used construction points
Level advanced by building construction
Knocked out
Knocked out during a job
Distance travelled
Distance travelled by foot
Distance travelled by donkey
Distance travelled by horse
Distance travelled by Quarter
Completed quests
Union flag received
The bank deposits were completed
The foreign bank deposits were completed
Amount deposited into the bank
Amount deposited into a foreign bank
Highest amount deposited into the bank
NPC duels lost
NPC duels won
Money won in NPC duels
Money lost in NPC duels
Beaten unconscious in NPC duels
Lost consciousness in NPC duels
Experience gained in NPC duels

Crafting
Number of crafted items
Number of crafted items from lesser recipes
Number of crafted items from simple recipes
Number of crafted items from difficult recipes
Number of crafted items (critical)
Number of recipes learned
Number of buffs used

Duels
Knocked out in a duel
Knocked out opponents
Duels as challenger
Duels won
Duels lost
"One-Hit" Duel victory
Failed duels

Bounty
Highest bounty
Lowest bounty
Wanted persons caught
Bounty received
Highest bounty offered
Wanted posters created
Wanted Dead posters created
Bounty offered

Fort Wars
Fort battle completed
Fort battle won
Sole survivor of a fort battle
Held the flag
hit count
missed shots
damage inflicted
hits taken
dodged shots
damage taken
average damage done
passed out during fight

ye that would be awesome
 

DeletedUser

I really like your opinions. I'm going to make an update of my idea. I will post it in the evening :)

EDIT: I don't really know the rules of the English forum, are they different than in the Netherlands? My question: Can i post my updatet idea here in this topic, or shall I open a new topic with the new updatet idea, so we can close this one? Thanks :)
 
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