P&P The Final Straw

[GodfatherLV]

Originally Posted by Berkie

No, seems your master mind over there needs the brains. Have you heard his latest brainstorm? He's going to tag a few small towns MC for the sole purpose of getting them invited to our forum. Sorry bub, not only are we are closed to new towns but we know that you've already got plenty of spies in our towns & so far they really aren't doing you much good when you are loosing forts left & right now is it??

If you are referring to last Sunday, there was plenty of time to get to other battles, in fact we took quite a few off of Eclipe's hands and defended one against a rather poor attack.

Multi battles (in my eyes) are battles all called with no possibility of getting from 1 battle to the next, which was clearly not the case here when there was wait time between the battles or we would not have been able to pull off so many successful attacks in 1 day.

Kinda funny though that you feel we used your tatics and you are not liking it. You are so right...we should not force your players out of your circle as you have done to ours, right??
:nowink:

Wtf, Berkie? You are talking about MY brainstorming? About MY spies? About MY tactics for multi? I'm sorry if I have misunderstood you since English isn't my first language, but because of your quote it looks that you are refering to me. If so then really, wtf?

1) My sentence about "brains" was to try to point out MC s*it talk in forums. I think it is childish and this is only a game. We should have fun not saying in forums "OMG U S*UCK" (not that somenone has said that). I understand that it could be the way how you or some from your towns play, but I still think that is lame. Maybe I'm wrong and nothing personal.

2) So IF you were refering to me then lol. I'm in a small town, we have no control about proceses. We have no need of spies. I haven't said anyting about making small towns as MC. I have made only one battle and I didn't use that tactic. :nowink: If you were talkin about mattaus, then I was wrong. But it looked like this because of quote lol

No hard feelings about you, Berkie nor most of MC. I just don't like s**t talk and that is it. I respect your fort fighting abilities, I enjoy battles despite some loosing, I'm waiting when our side will turn (reskill) to battles so we can have even more fun (yes, I think they are made for fun, f*ck am I again wrong ?).

Good luck,
GF

[Berkie]

Well, you were the one that said "MC needs to get the brains first." Both Victor & myself seriously frown on the spying crap, especially during battles. We have, a few times had a player or 2 posting your info in our chats. Quite simply, we ban them until battle is over. BAS is the one who brags about sitting in each & every one of our battle chats. So yeah, I am not talking about you specifically, but your GC leaders who think that the spy business belongs in a game such as this.

In short, you may not have control, but you are able to make choices. You choose to stay with them.

[GodfatherLV]

Yes, indeed I was first to said that. But I explained the meaning of it, didn't I?

It is easy to say - you stay, you make choices etc. But imagine what would happen if we leave our allies? This is the only way to balance the game a bit though you have larger force. If we leave - world dies. Simple as that. Can you imagine this world without fort fights? Of course you can say that it is already dead etc., but I disagree with that. There is a lot of firepower on both sides that still makes this world playable.

Ok, maybe your target is to control all forts in W10, but hmm.. is that interesting for players? Better is (in my opinion) to TRY to own all, but... not suceed.

So, GC and every allie "flees", you get all forts, world dies. So we don't have choice if we want to play in this world.

GF

[Berkie]

It is easier than you think. Many towns have left the GC over the mass calling of battles. Take a look around & you will see just how many have untagged GC. What would be the bad thing about you guys all creating a new group and leaving the constantinople towns behind??

What would be the bad part about you guys getting together & booting your current leader (who is just as bad as the first) and finding one who prefers to do a 1 on 1 battle instead of running like a chicken with it's head cut off calling every fort within a 5 block grid each time one of theirs is called. It's not rocket science, the towns that have left GC have done so because they have asked Miss B & BAS to stop calling battles so closely together. Their requests fell on deaf ears so those towns have left.

Our target is not to control every fort. Our target was to knock Constantinople off of the town rankings page. We met our goal. You see, in our town, our fort points are not high. We do not insist that other towns turn their forts over to us just to bump up our town points as Constan used to do. Quite the opposite actually. We have given away more forts than we own.

[Wind Listener]

I just want to add my two cents, though I'll admit that I haven't read most of this thread so I apologize if I get things wrong or repeat what's been said.

Of course you're right, Berkie and others, that we have a choice to keep on fighting with GC or not and to form our own group. But let's face it, would that make us better off? Absolutely not! We already lose terribly bad with the help of GC, how would we fare without them?

I do admire your fort fighting skills. You guys totally rock. But for me I play this game and attend fort battles to have fun. Facing you one on one and getting slaughtered is not very fun to me. I'm not saying that multis are a solution; I hate them just as much as the next guy. But I think there's a difference between good, even fights where we end up with 5 people shooting at 5 other people (how exciting!), and fights starting one on one and ending up 100 vs 10 in just 15 rounds. Now where is the fun in that?

We just can't beat you one on one right now. What are we supposed to do about that? Just give up and stop fighting? Splitting up our alliance so we're even weaker than we are now? Joining you so that the fights are even more one-sided? Would any of these options really make any sense? I personally don't think so.

It seems many people have been just lashing at each other on this thread and I'm sad about that. I'd just like to find a solution where everyone can have fun in even fights. How do we make these fights even? I'm not sure right now; I haven't heard anybody come up with a good solution.

IJ and others joining MC made this world a lot worse than it used to be (at least from where I stand; maybe you disagree). I would have understood if they had sided against Constantinople as a punishment against multis but had stayed with the greater alliance on our side. Actually, at the very beginning of this I stayed out of the fights involving those two towns. However, the new super power of IJ and MC rolled over everyone and it was not possible not to take sides anymore.

So here we are right now. Are we committed to keeping this game fun and talking about solutions without lashing at each other or are we just determined to win every single fight as easily as possible even if it means the death of the world? OAN started this thread by saying that he would do whatever it takes to keep this world alive. Is that what we're doing?

You all take care and have fun.

[Berkie]

Don't you think that all of the Gc people who are refusing to go out to battles now would most probably start taking parts in battles once they are not under the thumb of Constantinople? I do.

Not only that, but my guess is that Constan. towns would dry up as soon as the people who like to take part in battles move on to towns that are no longer tagged GC. It's just a simple matter of regrouping & gathering your lost players who have stopped participating because of the way GC has played things out.

[-Neo-]

@ wind listener
i thought ur post was very relevant.
i agree at the moment it is very hard for you guys, and not much fun.
but again i dont think that calling multis is a solution.
i think the best thing to do when something is at a dead end is to turn back and start again, start afresh from scratch
we have seen THP do this.
those who stayed THP are pretty much gone...

constantinople is now an old ideaology, and tbh its kinda weird, who wants to back up some turkish town that has been invaded a million times over the years?
not only that but add to that the gayaalle ideology
thats like peanut butter and jam (jelly)
whatever its just a bit weird, that and the fact that no one knows wtf its all about and doesnt really care.

what im saying is the GC marketing is seriously lacking.

the west with an ottoman town as capital?
mmmm

so all in all, you need to get urselves a new leader who is willing to spend his/her life on this game.
then you need to found some king of entity that will have meaning and be able to recruit players with a sense of pride.
and start building from there.

as i write this it seems to me it will be very hard to do such a thing, but one thing is for sure:
GC is now dead and gone, miss B is vacant and badasssam isnt coping very well.

its fairly obvious what you gotta do, its either that either we will have to make a side ourselves just to keep us from dying of boredom

[One Armed Ninja]

Did IJ switching, not prove the impact that just one town can have?

Don't just roll over and play dead, talk, plan and rise again.
Form a team, of dedicated members, there are plenty of people out there - and much can happen in the meantime

Without opposition i get bored :P
Grow strong guys, and do what oyur leaders couldn't

[GodfatherLV]

Not really OAN. Your leaving didn't bring Const. down. It was MC ability to develop much faster for fort battles.

[Berkie]

I think that it for sure had an impact, I believe many followed in his footsteps. OAN made quite a simple request...to stop calling so many multi battles. Many MC leaders & players had received complaints from GC players about the mutli's, saying that they were either not going to going or were going to do minimal battles. Some are refusing to go, some have left, and some have moved onto other towns.

Surely there is someone within the X GC capable of forming a new group where we can all agree to only call 1 battle at a time. While I can't speak for Vic or OAN (I think they ar both probably tucked in for the night) but I know that I would be willing to call a cease fire on any fort battles to give you time to regroup & gather some troops. Just drop me a line in game.
B